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Bill: Child Benefit Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: United Blobs

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: October 2132

Description[?]:

This bill is designed to help our poorer citizens support any children they have. To qualify the family must be within the lowest income tax bracket and a sliding scale of payments, correlating directly with the combined income of the child's parent(s)/guardian(s), will be implemented. The money will be enough to make sure that the child(ren) have enough food, water and clothing to be able to live in a decent quality of life. The actual amount of money given will be dependant on the number of children with each successive child receiving less money.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date22:22:27, October 25, 2005 CET
From United Blobs
ToDebating the Child Benefit Act
MessageAny description help would be appreciated.

This bill will not go to vote until I have some seats

Date22:54:06, October 25, 2005 CET
From We Say So! Party
ToDebating the Child Benefit Act
Message"A sliding scale of payments will be implemented in direct corellation to the income of the parents" - makes it clear (that way there can be no arguments about wording).

We support this as it provides that those on low incomes can still provide for their children. However, we would like a limitation of no more than a maximum of 3 children can receive benefits within a single family grouping (not including direct relations) and that the amount of money decreases per child, that way it doesn't encourage poorer families to use children as a source of income, but still provides the money for acceptable care.

Date22:58:30, October 25, 2005 CET
From Liberal-Progressive Union
ToDebating the Child Benefit Act
MessageDoesn't qualify under welfare, and minimum wage, and guaranteed subsistence?

Date23:14:24, October 25, 2005 CET
From We Say So! Party
ToDebating the Child Benefit Act
MessageNot really. The minimum wage laws guarantee that " a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist." Not they can support a family.
Guaranteed subsistence laws guarantee that if there is no-one to support an adult than they receive an income to subsist, again not enough to bring up children.

Date23:22:42, October 25, 2005 CET
From United Blobs
ToDebating the Child Benefit Act
Message@L-PU:-
"minimum wage" - Only applies to a working adult
"guaranteed subsistence" - From proposal:- "All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government". No mention of kids in there.
"welfare" - Not sure what you refer to. Please explain.

@WSS - I'm not sure about a hard cut off as it may affect people who accidentally have a fourth child but could not support it. Maybe having a larger amount for the first child and then a smaller amount for any later whilst still being just enough to bring up the child. I'll see what others want. I've also adjusted the wording where you suggested.

Date23:27:22, October 25, 2005 CET
From We Say So! Party
ToDebating the Child Benefit Act
MessageThat's fine. All I was thinking was that people shouldn't just decide to have lots of kids and live off the money provided tp look after them, but a sliding scale changing with the numbers of children would be acceptable.

Date04:48:24, October 26, 2005 CET
From National Imperial Hobrazian Front
ToDebating the Child Benefit Act
MessageLooking good.

Date10:23:43, October 26, 2005 CET
From Deltarian Nationalist Party
ToDebating the Child Benefit Act
MessageI'll support.

Date10:56:31, October 26, 2005 CET
From Hobrazia First
ToDebating the Child Benefit Act
MessageWe will support this, we would prefer a gradual minimising of support per child rather than a hard cut off point, but will support either option

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
      

Total Seats: 312

no

    Total Seats: 0

    abstain
     

    Total Seats: 88


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