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Bill: The People are Self-Owners

Details

Submitted by[?]: Freedom Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: October 2828

Description[?]:

The gov't does not own its citizens.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date07:45:51, October 05, 2009 CET
FromNrzi Prta (Democratic Party)
ToDebating the The People are Self-Owners
MessageThe ID card is for the safety of the public and for easy identification, it doesn't "own" it citizens in anyway and we believe that the Freedom Party's lie is an outrage to this parliament.

Date08:25:48, October 05, 2009 CET
FromFreedom Party
ToDebating the The People are Self-Owners
MessageMr. Speaker,

The fact that the people are COERCED into having an ID card shows that the gov't has a certain amount of control over them. Control is part-in-parcel of the definition of ownership. Ergo, in the current regime, the gov't pretends some power of ownership over the people.
Under the regime proposed by the Freedom Party, if people feel that they will be safer with the ID card, they are free to get it. If they do not, they are not forced to do so.
We wonder why the Democratic Party wishes to keep this regime of coercive control over the people. Voluntaryism is the basic building block of a successful society.

Yield.

Date12:42:01, October 05, 2009 CET
FromNrzi Prta (Democratic Party)
ToDebating the The People are Self-Owners
MessageThe people's safety is necessary to maintain a successful nation and ID card is one of our measure to protect them from crime. We don't understand how the simple thing such as ID card is somehow view as "ownership" of the government over the people. The government are in no way putting tag or ownership on them and this is only a measure to identify the citizen from the group of terrorist that's undermining our great Empire. The Freedom Party speak much, but with little sense at all.

And we're not aware of any Democratic party as we are the Democrat Party.

Voluntarism doesn't build a successful society, it's a sense of duty to the community that build a successful society.

Date17:25:38, October 05, 2009 CET
FromFreedom Party
ToDebating the The People are Self-Owners
MessageMr. Speaker,

Your collectivist nonsense has no effect on us. It is obvious that you desire to rule by force. There is no need to force everyone to be cattle in your collectivist pen. FORCED use of ID cards will only result in the robbery of other freedoms of the people. There is no need for the federal government to have this information about the people.

Yield.

Date21:13:28, October 05, 2009 CET
FromOne Nation Conservative Party
ToDebating the The People are Self-Owners
MessageWe have few objections to the reduction proposed in this scheme, it would seem it would save a great deal of monies.

Date22:01:13, October 05, 2009 CET
FromVerititas Splendor Party
ToDebating the The People are Self-Owners
MessageWe are happy to be in agreement with the One Nation Conservative Party and hope that we might be able to find other shared interests.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
       

Total Seats: 493

no
 

Total Seats: 257

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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