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Bill: Thalasocracy Bill I
Details
Submitted by[?]: First Marine Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2856
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning child labour.
Old value:: Child labour is forbidden.
Current: Child labour is forbidden.
Proposed: Child labour is regulated by local governments.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The research and development of pharmaceutical drugs.
Old value:: The government subsidizes research and development of prescription drugs but does not regulate their prices.
Current: The government subsidizes research and development of prescription drugs and regulates their prices.
Proposed: The government neither subsidizes research and development of drugs nor regulates their prices.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Commercial fishing regulation.
Old value:: Local governments can establish fishing quotas
Current: The government establishes fishing quotas.
Proposed: There are no limits on the amount of fish that may be caught.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change International trade (this is a default in the absense of a specific free trade agreement or specific trade embargo)
Old value:: The nation imposes reciprocal tariffs on imports, with no tariffs imposed on states which impose no tariffs on our exports.
Current: The nation imposes reciprocal tariffs on imports, with no tariffs imposed on states which impose no tariffs on our exports.
Proposed: The nation does not impose any tariffs or quotas on imports.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the treatment of prisoners of war.
Old value:: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Current: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Proposed: Prisoners of war are enslaved.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the export of weapons to other nations.
Old value:: The government allows arms to be sold only to close allies.
Current: The government must approve all arms sales on a case by case basis.
Proposed: The government allows conventional arms to be exported freely.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:37:27, November 26, 2009 CET | From |  Rutanian Heritage Party | To | Debating the Thalasocracy Bill I |
| Message | The RHP cannot support this legislation, as we oppose the majority of its Articles. We fervently oppose Articles 4 and 6 in particular. Article 4 proposes that Rutania's domestic industries and job markets be subjected to the ruthless forces of economic globalization with no security whatsoever, the inevitable results of which will be enormous job losses, business and factory closures, and the fundamental weakening of Rutania's national sovereignty and independence. Article 6 proposes that Rutania should sell arms to other nations indiscriminantly, with no regard to their potential usage. Effectively, under this proposal, weapons may be freely sold to Rutania's enemies or potential enemies - that this defies all common sense and presents an extreme security risk should be self-evident, and any economic benefits that such a proposal may bring are therefore irrelevant. |
| Date | 17:21:26, November 26, 2009 CET | From | First Marine Party | To | Debating the Thalasocracy Bill I |
| Message | In contrast to what you said, these articles will provide jobs globally, we need people importing/exporting the items and it will increase our relationships with other nations. Also, we are only selling conventional arms to anyone. By doing so, we are being trusted and we'll be rolling in wealth. |
| Date | 20:21:08, November 26, 2009 CET | From | People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Thalasocracy Bill I |
| Message | The PPR cannot agree to this bill for many reasons, not least child labour and enslavement. This is medieval and not something we can support. |
| Date | 20:56:29, November 26, 2009 CET | From | First Marine Party | To | Debating the Thalasocracy Bill I |
| Message | Slavery is taking advantage of resources! If they are returned to their nation, they will be attack again and if they are killed, we waist bullets! So we must put them to good use! Also, child labour is a vague term and therefore local governments should interperate what it means how they like. If having a mailroute is child labour than it will be illegal there, but if sweatshops aren't considered child labour... oh well! |
| Date | 20:57:08, November 26, 2009 CET | From | First Marine Party | To | Debating the Thalasocracy Bill I |
| Message | This bill is perfect, you just have to get over your backwards idealist morals. |
| Date | 23:56:12, November 26, 2009 CET | From | People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Thalasocracy Bill I |
| Message | We thank the FMP for their response but will be voting against this bill due to the PPR stance on slavery and erroneously titled bills. |
| Date | 19:48:57, November 27, 2009 CET | From | Rutanian Restoration Party | To | Debating the Thalasocracy Bill I |
| Message | We support many articles of the bill, and are fervently opposed to others, we could support some parts if this was broken down into smaller pieces of legislation. |
| Date | 22:49:43, November 27, 2009 CET | From | First Marine Party | To | Debating the Thalasocracy Bill I |
| Message | RRC can u specify which articles? Because, we could break this down into seperate bills. Also again with the title, we will only use it for bills relating to that but yeah |
| Date | 22:49:43, November 27, 2009 CET | From | First Marine Party | To | Debating the Thalasocracy Bill I |
| Message | RRC can u specify which articles? Because, we could break this down into seperate bills. Also again with the title, we will only use it for bills relating to that but yeah |
| Date | 22:50:32, November 27, 2009 CET | From | First Marine Party | To | Debating the Thalasocracy Bill I |
| Message | sorry not RRC but orange party** |
| Date | 00:58:09, December 01, 2009 CET | From | Independent Party Of Rutania | To | Debating the Thalasocracy Bill I |
| Message | :( man thats evil:/ |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 258 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 242 |
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