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Bill: Capital Punishment Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Nationalist Union
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2133
Description[?]:
| WHEREAS the nation has no capital punishment and WHEREAS the nation keeps criminals who are never to be released and WHEREAS the costs in doing so are unneccesary and WHEREAS capital punishment sends a strong signal to those who would commit rape, murder and treachery I PROPOSE we execute those who have proven by their own actions that they are unworthy of walking amongst us, and are unsuitable for rehabilitation. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Current: The death penalty is applied for capital crimes.
Proposed: The death penalty is applied for capital crimes.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:43:05, October 29, 2005 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the Capital Punishment Act |
| Message | Agree: there are several crimes that deserve a very painfull death |
| Date | 18:46:08, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Union | To | Debating the Capital Punishment Act |
| Message | Glad to here it and I hope more feel the same. |
| Date | 19:51:44, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Selucian Sovereignty Party | To | Debating the Capital Punishment Act |
| Message | I disagree. Once the state condones murder through executions, it condones violence in general in society. There is a reason why the violent crime rate is highest in US states that use the death penalty, yet in US states that don't have the death penalty, the violent crime rate is generally lower. The state that condones murder through executions sends a message to the population as a whole that violence is justified. I reject the justification of violence by the state, and therefore vote against this bill. |
| Date | 20:01:47, October 29, 2005 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the Capital Punishment Act |
| Message | I disagree with SSP: because there were problems with crimes, some states started to perform capital punishments. It's a statistic fact that, in years were more prisoners are released than usual, crime rates are higher too. |
| Date | 20:07:34, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Selucian Sovereignty Party | To | Debating the Capital Punishment Act |
| Message | But capital punishment has not caused a reduction in crime in those states, making its use unnecessary. All it leads to is the accidental execution of innocent people. |
| Date | 20:41:16, October 29, 2005 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the Capital Punishment Act |
| Message | Agree, it may not have lowered crimes, but: You don't know what Would Have Happened if those states did NOT have the capital punishment. Maybe they would have had even higher crime rates. Besides: what would you prefer: sitting in jail innocent for 40 years, or being executed innocent? (I would prefer the second one) |
| Date | 20:58:32, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Selucian Sovereignty Party | To | Debating the Capital Punishment Act |
| Message | Death is the ultimate deprivation of one's civil rights. IT should not be tolerated ever. Hence, this bill must be defeated. |
| Date | 21:07:07, October 29, 2005 CET | From | North Majatran Union Congress | To | Debating the Capital Punishment Act |
| Message | VBS I'm not sure whether I quite follow the logic of your arguement, you'd prefer to kill an Innocent person rather than allow the opportunity for evidence to arise which clears them? I think what you do show quite well however is the fact that you would prefer to be dead than in prison for the rest of your life, therefore if you want to punish someone then prison would be the better option. |
| Date | 21:15:01, October 29, 2005 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the Capital Punishment Act |
| Message | Of course I would want that person free. The point is: with death penalty, someone can be killed without doing something wrong. With just prison cells, the same thing happens. So capital punishment doesn't change that. |
| Date | 22:30:50, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Selucian Sovereignty Party | To | Debating the Capital Punishment Act |
| Message | Eventually though, there is the opportunity for the wrongly convicted to regain his or her freedom (new evidence, etc.). If he or she is already executed, that opportunity doesn't occur. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 186 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 240 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 126 |
| Random fact: Once approved, players should copy Cultural Protocols into a bill in the debate section of their nation page, under the title of "OOC: Cultural Protocols". This bill should include links to the passed Cultural Protocol bill and the Moderation approval. |
| Random quote: "I'm not interested in preserving the status quo; I want to overthrow it." - Niccolo Machiavelli |