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Bill: Safety through Justice (2132)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Progressive Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2134
Description[?]:
| This helps the safety of our country; and is also more just. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Current: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Proposed: The death penalty is not applied, except for terrorism, treason and crimes against mankind.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:18:30, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Roman Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Safety through Justice (2132) |
| Message | Agreed with Article 1, but heavily against Article 2. Privately owned and unsubsidised defense industries are cheaper for the government and better for the economy. |
| Date | 01:24:00, October 30, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Party | To | Debating the Safety through Justice (2132) |
| Message | We also need to make sure that we are making advances in weaponry, however. I think subsidies can assure us that. |
| Date | 02:47:51, October 30, 2005 CET | From | Roman Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Safety through Justice (2132) |
| Message | With the prospect of competition among defense industries, companies will force themselves to develop bigger and better weapons for the government. |
| Date | 04:49:35, October 30, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Party | To | Debating the Safety through Justice (2132) |
| Message | There still will be competition; which is why we are keeping it privatized. Maybe not quite so much, but with the government regulating what weapons can be sold out of the nation, the competition isn't too extreme as it is. |
| Date | 06:05:53, October 30, 2005 CET | From | People's Democratic Party | To | Debating the Safety through Justice (2132) |
| Message | No way we'll support article 1, and we're leaning towards not supporting article 2 as the Roman Imperialist Party brings up good points. |
| Date | 08:27:59, October 30, 2005 CET | From | Roman Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Safety through Justice (2132) |
| Message | If all private defense companies are subsidized, then there is no drive for compeition. Why? Because the company will still get their money whether or not they produce a satisfactory product. If they aren't subsidized, then the companies will compete harder to build better products for the government to buy. |
| Date | 15:18:56, October 30, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Party | To | Debating the Safety through Justice (2132) |
| Message | Article 1 is a clear defense mechanism of this country and of the world. People who do crimes such as those mentioned in article 1 aren't the type of folk who can be rehabilitated... However, is there any support for the bill as a whole? |
| Date | 16:01:15, October 30, 2005 CET | From | Roman Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Safety through Justice (2132) |
| Message | The Roman Imperialist Party will support Article 1, but not Article 2. |
| Date | 18:24:04, October 30, 2005 CET | From | People's Democratic Party | To | Debating the Safety through Justice (2132) |
| Message | The People's Democratic Party will not support this bill at all. |
| Date | 03:24:40, October 31, 2005 CET | From | New Daio Party | To | Debating the Safety through Justice (2132) |
| Message | Will support 1, but not 2. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 218 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 183 |
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