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Bill: Ratification of the Recongnition of the Republic of New Englia
Details
Submitted by[?]: Telamon Nationellpartiet-Republikansk
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2881
Description[?]:
This bill asks for the ratification of the Recongnition of the Republic of New Englia. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ratify the Recongnition of the Republic of New Englia.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 01:14:20, January 19, 2010 CET | From | Telamon Nationellpartiet-Republikansk | To | Debating the Ratification of the Recongnition of the Republic of New Englia |
Message | it is ratified by the territories it is declared from, therefore this is entirely legal |
Date | 18:06:47, January 19, 2010 CET | From | Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM) | To | Debating the Ratification of the Recongnition of the Republic of New Englia |
Message | If that treaty only permitted the recognition of the Republic of New Englia we would immediately vote to sign the treaty. However it also sneaks in terms mandating a 10 year non-aggression pact between all signatories. We cannot support that. We do not wish to promote war and strife but there may be times when Telamon must defend itself. We cannot allow Telamon to be saddled by this treaty that could prohibit Telamon from its self-defense. |
Date | 21:42:19, January 19, 2010 CET | From | Telamon Nationellpartiet-Republikansk | To | Debating the Ratification of the Recongnition of the Republic of New Englia |
Message | The non-aggression pact is only with New Englia, as a young nation, a war could be devastating. therefore we should agree not to attack them. |
Date | 18:10:06, January 20, 2010 CET | From | Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM) | To | Debating the Ratification of the Recongnition of the Republic of New Englia |
Message | We agree, in principle, that attacking any nation is rephrensible regardless of how much time has passed since their inception. However, we must place Telamon first and that means we must be willing and ready to defend her at all costs. As such we must not be saddled by treaties that nobble us in terms of our defensive options. |
Date | 18:11:11, January 20, 2010 CET | From | Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM) | To | Debating the Ratification of the Recongnition of the Republic of New Englia |
Message | We have no qualms with officially declaring friendship with New Englia and unofficially promoting peace between our two great nations. We cannot, however, support a treaty that limits our defensive options. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||
yes | Total Seats: 186 | ||
no | Total Seats: 94 | ||
abstain | Total Seats: 76 |
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Random quote: "The Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire" - Voltaire |