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Bill: Imperial Military to Morduisan Boarder and on to be Put on High Alert
Details
Submitted by[?]: Parti Imperial du Peuple (IA)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2896
Description[?]:
| With the passage of this bill by the People's Assembly and the approval of the People's Consul, the Imperial Military of Alduria shall be handed over to the Viceroy's and Consul's discretion on the rebellious matters pertaining to the Imperial Dominion of Mordusia. 1) While not a declaration of war, the People's Assembly shall give the Viceroy and Consul the authority to act as they see fit and thus be able to respond to rebellious acts in Mordusia, with force if need be. 2) The Assembly retains to right to hold the Consul and the Viceroy responsible for their actions and shall have the power to at anytime recall this bill and end this measure of emergency power. 3) All reserves are to be on stand by and report to their bases. All troops are to be ready for deployment at anytime and shall be at a state of High Alert until the Consul or Viceroy issue a different report. Signed: The Chief Representative of the People's Assembly, Lord Bruno Peters |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:50:23, February 18, 2010 CET | From | Luthori Spiritual Secularist Society | To | Debating the Imperial Military to Morduisan Boarder and on to be Put on High Alert |
| Message | Even though the society does not currently operate politically in Alduria, we still follow the news from the land of our founders. We feel it is important to remind you that Alduria can take to agressive actions against Mordusia due to article 1 of SOTO. |
| Date | 15:51:58, February 18, 2010 CET | From | Luthori Spiritual Secularist Society | To | Debating the Imperial Military to Morduisan Boarder and on to be Put on High Alert |
| Message | Edit: should be "can take NO agressive action..." |
| Date | 23:02:50, February 18, 2010 CET | From | Parti Imperial du Peuple (IA) | To | Debating the Imperial Military to Morduisan Boarder and on to be Put on High Alert |
| Message | However, this would be considered a rebellion and not a war, and thus the treaty would not apply since the rightful government is who we recognize and we are fighting the rebel one. |
| Date | 15:27:09, February 19, 2010 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Imperial Military to Morduisan Boarder and on to be Put on High Alert |
| Message | OOC: Well, technically by SOTO you're not allowed any involvement in another members internal affairs, and it would be difficult to argue that 'putting down a rebellion' isn't doing so. However, since SOTO has specific geographical conditions for membership, and both you and Mordusia don't meet those conditions (you're both to the East of Quanzar/Istalia), its redundant in this case. |
| Date | 16:26:49, February 19, 2010 CET | From | Luthori Spiritual Secularist Society | To | Debating the Imperial Military to Morduisan Boarder and on to be Put on High Alert |
| Message | It could also be argued that since Terra is a globe, Alduria and Mordusia are simply far far west (but still west) and thereby qualify as members and given where all the current signatories are this would seem to be the appropriate view. |
| Date | 20:08:05, February 19, 2010 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Imperial Military to Morduisan Boarder and on to be Put on High Alert |
| Message | OOC: Good point; it doubtless wasn't the intended meaning of the treaty, which was basically trying to restrict it to Majatra and Selucias zone of influence, however technically, by the wording of the treaty, you are correct, and it would be a violation for Alduria to involve itself in Mordusia's internal affairs. |
| Date | 04:02:12, February 20, 2010 CET | From | Parti Imperial du Peuple (IA) | To | Debating the Imperial Military to Morduisan Boarder and on to be Put on High Alert |
| Message | Yet this is pointless considering the point that all it takes is a vote and we are out of the treaty. Not to mention the fact that we will hold our meaning as the right one and thus will be in a bind. For as you said it can be seen either way and thus can be argued either way on whether or not we are in the treaty. Thus it does not matter. |
| Date | 13:20:29, February 20, 2010 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Imperial Military to Morduisan Boarder and on to be Put on High Alert |
| Message | OOC: Well I think it's pretty much indisputable that you would have to regard yourself as a legitmate member of the treaty, since you have ratified it. I might argue that Seleyan nations being allowed membership of the treaty was never intended (which if, I remember correctly, it wasn't), but by the wording of the treaty any of those South of Selucia are eligible. So unless you had an argument why you are legitimitely members while Mordusia isn't, you would be in violation of the treaty; whether that would have any consequences, I don't know, tbh the axis treaty seems like the more relevant one. Anyway, as you say it's only a short delay to withdraw anyway, I've just always found it amusing how SOTO jumped continents :p. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |
| yes | Total Seats: 189 | |
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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