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Bill: Prison's Trees
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partiya Nacionalnogo Progressa
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2045
Description[?]:
| I know, you all like nature. I propose to force prisoners to plant trees along roads and highways every weekday. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Prison policy concerning prisoner labor.
Old value:: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Current: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Proposed: Able-bodied prisoners have to work during the day.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:32:29, April 30, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Prison's Trees |
| Message | See, LP is gonna argue about how to interpert this, much like all the others, to me the prisoners should do lots of the enviromental stuff. Make them pay for their crimes, by cleaning up our society. I fully endorse the idea. |
| Date | 02:47:27, May 01, 2005 CET | From | To | Debating the Prison's Trees |
| Message | Heh. Cleaning up all parts of the prison will go far. But if you do your roleplaying well I might support this bill. (I suggested a thing like this in UCA's prison reform bill). Forced labour in prison is a way of making prison worse for the unrepentant criminals, so it makes effective punishment shorter and cheaper than without forced labour. |
| Date | 07:00:18, May 01, 2005 CET | From |  Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the Prison's Trees |
| Message | I support this. Make the prisoners contribute to society in a good way. |
| Date | 11:26:59, May 01, 2005 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Prison's Trees |
| Message | Whilst prisons should not be an easy option and prisoners should indeed be punished we cannot go down the route of forced labour. With forced labour you end up with Stalin's gulags or Hitler's concentration camps (to take 2 extreme examples). We believe that the way to prevent reoffending is through education and rehabilitation and whilst prisoners are being punished (they are locked up!!!) through the system of education and voluntary labour that currently exists we are able to educate prisoners and allow them to acquire skills to help them reintegrate into the community and not reoffend. Obviously there will be a small group of hard core prisoners who cannot be released but we feel that life imprionment is enough - even these prisoners have some rights and forced labour infringes these. |
| Date | 20:04:20, May 01, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Prison's Trees |
| Message | Although true, this is not a dictaorship, but a democratic country. So we do not have to worry about gulags, or concentration camps. |
| Date | 21:13:07, May 01, 2005 CET | From | Partiya Nacionalnogo Progressa | To | Debating the Prison's Trees |
| Message | Yes, let's stop totalitarophoby! |
| Date | 08:42:11, May 02, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Prison's Trees |
| Message | as long as they dont take jobs and get paid ill vote yess |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 37 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 48 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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