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Bill: Leftist League Budget Statement
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Workers Party (LL)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2920
Description[?]:
| The National Workers Party (LL) propose to adjust the government's spending budget to better address the economic and social situation of the Socialist Republic of Ikradon. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Tax percentage of the profit made by corporations.
Old value:: 80
Current: 17
Proposed: 85
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Sales tax on essential goods such as food and non-luxury clothing.
Old value:: 0
Current: 5
Proposed: 3
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Sales tax on luxury goods.
Old value:: 15
Current: 22
Proposed: 17
Article 4
| Ministry | Current Budget | Old Budget | Propesed Budget |
| Head of Government | 80,000,000 IKD | 600,000,000 IKD | 500,000,000 IKD |
| Foreign Affairs | 5,000,000,000 IKD | 4,000,000,000 IKD | 700,000,000 IKD |
| Internal Affairs | 13,000,000,000 IKD | 4,400,000,000 IKD | 300,000,000,000 IKD |
| Finance | 1,000,000,000 IKD | 1,000,000,000,000 IKD | 400,000,000 IKD |
| Defence | 200,000,000,000 IKD | 6,000,000,000,000 IKD | 1,000,000,000,000 IKD |
| Justice | 120,000,000,000 IKD | 10,000,000,000 IKD | 100,000,000,000 IKD |
| Infrastructure and Transport | 14,000,000,000 IKD | 1,400,000,000,000 IKD | 650,000,000 IKD |
| Health and Social Services | 50,000,000,000 IKD | 1,300,000,000,000 IKD | 300,000,000,000 IKD |
| Education and Culture | 40,000,000,000 IKD | 750,000,000,000 IKD | 300,000,000,000 IKD |
| Science and Technology | 60,000,000,000 IKD | 450,000,000,000 IKD | 650,000,000 IKD |
| Food and Agriculture | 20,000,000,000 IKD | 100,000,000,000 IKD | 650,000,000 IKD |
| Environment and Tourism | 40,000,000,000 IKD | 5,000,000,000 IKD | 800,000,000 IKD |
| Trade and Industry | 1,000,000,000 IKD | 6,500,000,000 IKD | 300,000,000,000 IKD |
| Total | 564,080,000,000 IKD | 11,030,500,000,000 IKD | 2,304,350,000,000 IKD |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:55:23, April 08, 2010 CET | From | National Workers Party (LL) | To | Debating the Leftist League Budget Statement |
| Message | Strange to see that the Socialist Alliance support this Act. Given they voted against my government taxation act which they said has "too high" tax rates yet they vote for my tax increases on profits etc. Admittedly we have revised our opinions on Government spending which is to drastically reduce it. |
| Date | 18:02:02, April 08, 2010 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Leftist League Budget Statement |
| Message | The United Socialism Alliance agrees with the drastic reduction of government spending, the increase of the luxury tax and the implementation of the sales tax. The United Socialism Alliance urges still that since other taxes has been risen, that the three lower brackets of tax income be reduced (to maybe around 12%, 24% and 42% respectefully.) Regardless, the United Socialism Alliance supports this act. |
| Date | 20:06:37, April 08, 2010 CET | From | Lyika ati Isọdọtun | To | Debating the Leftist League Budget Statement |
| Message | We have always opposed taxing essential goods, since this will directly affect the poorest citizens of Ikradon. Furthermore, we agree with the principle of cutting government spending where necessary, this budget goes too far in some areas. We fail to see how a balanced economy can be achieved if a) the LL insists on state ownership of all industry, b) our budget for food and agriculture is drastically slashed, and c) we pour vast resources into heavy industry. This sounds like the recipe for failure along the lines of the Soviet Union. |
| Date | 20:10:44, April 08, 2010 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Leftist League Budget Statement |
| Message | The sales tax would be good, but it will be better if the income taxes gets reduced in the lower brackets. There wouldn't be any need for high taxes for the poor when A) the indirect taxes are increased and B) government spending has been decreased drastically. |
| Date | 22:11:43, April 08, 2010 CET | From | National Workers Party (LL) | To | Debating the Leftist League Budget Statement |
| Message | Perhaps both parties can dictate their economic policies whilst they are in power but until that day the NWP will not take any interest in their remarks. In this budget we have done what the FFP wanted all along which was to cut spending except now we have cut spending too much? Clearly the FFP cannot be satisfied and will always find something to moan about. Whenever they are in power they can dictate their own budgets, but they tried to do that already and both were defeated so clearly the FFP knows absolutley nothing about the economic situation of this nation! |
| Date | 22:36:53, April 08, 2010 CET | From | Lyika ati Isọdọtun | To | Debating the Leftist League Budget Statement |
| Message | Once we have returned to a more liberal economic model, we would be glad to see this sort of budget passed. As it stands, under complete nationalization, this budget would be catastrophic. We cannot have a thriving agricultural market under these policies. Clearly, the NWP forgets what the role of an opposition party is. |
| Date | 23:38:36, April 08, 2010 CET | From | National Workers Party (LL) | To | Debating the Leftist League Budget Statement |
| Message | Clearly the FFP has no idea what it is talking about. The vast majority of our nationalised industries are self-sufficient and can support themselves which is what all businesses have to do regarless of privitised or nationalised. As this is a clear point of normal business practice the government does not need a huge financial input into these businesses! Clearly, the FFP forgets what the role of the governing party is and the parties in power knows what is best which is why we were elected in the first place! Perhaps if the FFP wise up a bit, more people will vote for them and they can have a real say in what goes on in the Cabinet |
| Date | 23:59:53, April 08, 2010 CET | From | Lyika ati Isọdọtun | To | Debating the Leftist League Budget Statement |
| Message | How can our businesses be self-sufficient if we are taxing 85% of their income? |
| Date | 00:09:48, April 09, 2010 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Leftist League Budget Statement |
| Message | The tax isn't on income, it is on profits. |
| Date | 00:14:53, April 09, 2010 CET | From | Lyika ati Isọdọtun | To | Debating the Leftist League Budget Statement |
| Message | The wrong word, but the argument remains essentially unchanged--with a growing population and a desire to have our economy continue to develop, we must either liberalize our economy or commit ourselves to massive state investments in all areas of the economy to see that we are capable of growing at pace with demand. |
| Date | 00:28:06, April 09, 2010 CET | From | National Workers Party (LL) | To | Debating the Leftist League Budget Statement |
| Message | Our state operated businesses may be being taxed 85% of their PROFITS! The companies keep enough for themselves to operate and if the companies need any help then the government is prepared to put this tax back into these companies. The FFP, yet again showing why the LL is in power |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 367 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 279 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: "Treaty-locking", or ratifiying treaties that completely or nearly completely forbid any proposals to change laws, is not allowed. Amongst other possible sanctions, Moderation reserves the discretion to delete treaties and/or subject parties to a seat reset if this is necessary in order to reverse a treaty-lock situation. |
| Random quote: "The Lord is a man of war" - Exodus 15:3 |