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Bill: Free Family Planning Act 2933
Details
Submitted by[?]: Progressive Centrist Democrats
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2934
Description[?]:
| The government should not interfere with birth control. The growth of the population is not the governments business. Parents should make a free decision without state influence. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on population control.
Old value:: The government actively promotes population growth.
Current: The government does not engage in population control.
Proposed: The government does not engage in population control.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:49:59, May 04, 2010 CET | From | Anarcho-Primitivist Concern | To | Debating the Free Family Planning Act 2933 |
| Message | I can see no reason for this policy change. Government support for big families does not necessarily mean a limitation on people's freedom. We're just making it possible for poorer people to have large families if they wish it. That's not to say people have to do that. |
| Date | 14:58:36, May 04, 2010 CET | From | Dark Templar (LL) | To | Debating the Free Family Planning Act 2933 |
| Message | why? it's not like the government does not hook Ikradonian women to "rape" machines and let them make us glorious babies, I see no reason to change this policy |
| Date | 17:01:17, May 04, 2010 CET | From | Progressive Centrist Democrats | To | Debating the Free Family Planning Act 2933 |
| Message | Of course you don't force anyone. But it is not the government's job. Just like in many other examples in this country. |
| Date | 19:32:48, May 04, 2010 CET | From | Anarcho-Primitivist Concern | To | Debating the Free Family Planning Act 2933 |
| Message | It's not the government's job to provide funding to support people establishing their families? I can't see why not. It is also the government's job to encourage people to act in ways that support this society, we're not forcing people to have big families, it can't be wrong for a state to promote behaviour which is good for the state. |
| Date | 21:05:13, May 04, 2010 CET | From | Progressive Centrist Democrats | To | Debating the Free Family Planning Act 2933 |
| Message | It is not the government's job to promote any behaviour. It is the government's job to protect people from harm. Besides that, we do agree that we should support people in whatever they want. People have to take responsibility for their actions. After all, we are not a socialist party. So we don't expect you to understand our principles. |
| Date | 21:13:39, May 04, 2010 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Free Family Planning Act 2933 |
| Message | Nobody is being forced. The fact is, that a bigger family means more Ikradons to work for Ikradon. We don't punish of force people to creat big families, we just promote the creation of big family. The choice is still theirs. Through my entire term as Minister of Health & Social Services, I never once seaw a reason to change this policy of population growth promotion and as current Minister of Education & Culture, I still don't see a reason. In fact, as former minister in charge of the Department of Health & Social Services, I had the pleasure of personally witnessing many happy large poor families being happy, with governmental financial and social support. And today as the Minister in charge of the Department of Education & Culture, I can clearly see the fruits of this law, as many children from poor large families now have the chance of going, and excelling at school! I think that I, and Union Socialism Alliance, has made it clear that we will be voting no on this bill. Minister Nagila Muller, Department of Education & Culture. |
| Date | 23:30:17, May 04, 2010 CET | From | Progressive Centrist Democrats | To | Debating the Free Family Planning Act 2933 |
| Message | We thought there are no poor people in socialist countries anyway. |
| Date | 05:30:37, May 05, 2010 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Free Family Planning Act 2933 |
| Message | In a socialist republic, in an ideal situation, everyone is about even financially. Before the current United Ikradon Coaliton in 2924, the country was politically unstable, with 6 elections in 6 years. It was not until 2924 that stability returned to Ikradon, and that the socialist republic has been in transformation ever since then. You as well as I could have imagined what chaos this instability created for the lesser wealthy of the socialist republic. This is why such a law was and is seen as benificial to the socialist republic. Minister Nagila Muller Department of Education & Culture |
| Date | 08:48:22, May 05, 2010 CET | From | Progressive Centrist Democrats | To | Debating the Free Family Planning Act 2933 |
| Message | We have no objections towards state help for the poor and needing. But we still disagree, that population growth should be encouraged. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 258 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 341 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Information about the population of each country can be found on the Population Information thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8663 |
| Random quote: "Patriotism is in political life what faith is in religion." - John Dalberg-Acton |