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Bill: Economic Freedom
Details
Submitted by[?]: Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2941
Description[?]:
| To let go of the chains of the workers! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Protection of original works of technology and arts.
Old value:: Works of techology and art have limited copy protection.
Current: Works of technology and art are protected by copyright.
Proposed: Technology and art are part of the commons and are not protected by copyright.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Eminent Domain.
Old value:: The government may seize private property for vital government works.
Current: The government may seize private property for any reason.
Proposed: The government may seize private property for any reason.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on energy generation.
Old value:: Small scale private electrical generation is permitted but most energy is generated by a government-owned company.
Current: All power stations are publicly owned.
Proposed: All power stations are publicly owned.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Radio stations.
Old value:: The government subsidises a national radio station for educational and informational purposes; other private non-subsidised radio stations are allowed.
Current: The government subsidises independent non-profit-making cooperatives for educational and informational purposes; other private non-subsidised radio stations are allowed.
Proposed: All radio stations are owned by independent non-profit-making cooperatives which are subsidised by the government.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Television stations.
Old value:: The government subsidises a national TV station for educational and informational purposes; other private non-subsidised TV stations are allowed.
Current: The government subsidises independent non-profit-making cooperatives for educational and informational purposes; other private non-subsidised TV stations are allowed.
Proposed: All TV stations are owned by independent non-profit-making cooperatives which are subsidised by the government.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Higher education tuition policy.
Old value:: The government subsidizes higher education tuition to a certain amount, the rest is covered by the individual students. This includes scholarship programs.
Current: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Proposed: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Government provision of legal aid to the accused.
Old value:: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Current: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Proposed: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Pre-school education.
Old value:: The government maintains a system of free publically owned nurseries alongside heavily regulated private establishments.
Current: The government maintains a system of free publically owned nurseries alongside heavily regulated private establishments.
Proposed: The government maintains a system of free publically owned nursery and pre-school educational centres.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change The education system.
Old value:: There is a free public education system and a small number of private schools, which are heavily regulated to ensure they teach adequate skills and information.
Current: Education is entirely public and free; private schools are banned.
Proposed: Education is entirely public and free; private schools are banned.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change The patenting of software techniques.
Old value:: Software patents can be obtained from the patent office.
Current: Software patents can be obtained from the patent office.
Proposed: Software designs, techniques, formulae and algorithms cannot be patented.
Article 11
Proposal[?] to change The government policy regarding housing.
Old value:: The state provides public housing to low-income families.
Current: The state provides public housing to low-income families.
Proposed: The state owns and maintains all housing.
Article 12
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on Democratic Workers' Councils.
Old value:: The government encourages the formation of Democratic Workers' Councils through subsidies and tax exemptions.
Current: The government does not intervene in the marketplace with regards to Democratic Workers' Councils.
Proposed: The government requires all businesses to be run by Democratic Workers' Councils.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:18:44, May 19, 2010 CET | From |  Progressive Centrist Democrats | To | Debating the Economic Freedom |
| Message | The PCD would agree on Articles 4,5 an 6. (radio, TV and tuition)The rest is definitely not in accord with our ideas. |
| Date | 12:31:57, May 19, 2010 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Economic Freedom |
| Message | It surprises us that the Progressive Centrist Democrats agrees with state-owned media, but nonetheless, Union Socialism Alliance disagreee with the majority of the bill. |
| Date | 13:42:52, May 19, 2010 CET | From | Progressive Centrist Democrats | To | Debating the Economic Freedom |
| Message | Misread the proposed changes. Would have agreed on when it were the other option with "the rest private". it had indeed been surprising if the CFP had proposed that. Sorry. The PCD only agrees only with the tuition proposal. |
| Date | 15:38:06, May 19, 2010 CET | From | Art & Labour | To | Debating the Economic Freedom |
| Message | Social Democracy disagrees with all proposals here outlined, and may we suggest that the title of the bill is misleading. This act will lead to excessive tax and near total government stranglehold over the economy which will make the economy more inefficient and far less innovative. |
| Date | 15:50:48, May 19, 2010 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Economic Freedom |
| Message | The workers control the government, so we are taking the means of production out of the hands of the elite and into the hands of the workers. |
| Date | 15:51:34, May 19, 2010 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Economic Freedom |
| Message | However, USA, What proposals do you agree with? |
| Date | 18:53:34, May 19, 2010 CET | From | Art & Labour | To | Debating the Economic Freedom |
| Message | Workers are not the be-all and end-all of the economy. Govenment is not the be-all and end-all of the economy. Fairness is good, but this is not fairness. This will forcibly take away people's homes, it gives government the power to take people's possesions for no reason, destroy once an for all the parts of the private sector that remain and deposit it in the hands of naturally inefficient government departments. This will cause taxes to rise inexorably higher and will mean that the government will be the only wage payer. If the government is paying 100% of an employees wages and taking only 10 to 20% back in tax, that leaves a huge and unaffordable black hole in the public finances that cannot be filled. This is not fairness, this is tyranny mixed with economic suicide. Our economy is creaking as it is, dont kill it by enacting this. |
| Date | 19:32:40, May 19, 2010 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Economic Freedom |
| Message | They are in are wonderful socialist republic. Again, we are a democracy. The government is the people. We are taking possessions out of the bourgeoisie, and into the hands of the common man. It destroys all of the for-profit economy. Money in this wonderful state is backed up by labor, so the worker pays himself in the end. Are economy is not creaking, I ask you to show me that are economy is creaking. |
| Date | 02:07:27, May 20, 2010 CET | From | Anarcho-Primitivist Concern | To | Debating the Economic Freedom |
| Message | Why is article 10 in there? |
| Date | 02:10:33, May 20, 2010 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Economic Freedom |
| Message | If we are abolishing private property, it is simple common sense. |
| Date | 02:11:14, May 20, 2010 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Economic Freedom |
| Message | If we are abolishing private property, it is simple common sense. |
| Date | 05:40:47, May 20, 2010 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Economic Freedom |
| Message | We agree with Article Four and Article Five. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 210 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 263 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 126 |
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