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Bill: State Operations Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Hutorian Conservative Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 2941

Description[?]:

This Bill will nationalise key areas of the Hutorian Industry for the benefit of all.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date13:48:21, May 20, 2010 CET
FromFortunato's Fascist Formation
ToDebating the State Operations Act
MessageFascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power.

Date13:55:21, May 20, 2010 CET
FromConservative-Libertarian Party (UM)
ToDebating the State Operations Act
MessageMr Speaker, regardless of economics, there are two articles in this bill that should make any decent-minded person vote against it.

Article III is nothing less than pure racism. Mr Speaker, it ignores the fact that some of Hutori's most successful businesses, that employ thousands of people, have an element of foreign investment. Without such investment, ordinary Hutorians would not have had jobs.

Article VI, Mr Speaker, is simply about censorship, even more so than Articles IV and V. The internet is the bastion of free spech and internationalism, and to suddenly have the government control it is unacceptable.

Mr Speaker, this bill would bankrupt the nation, cost an enormous amount to the poorest in society, and see basic civil liberties damaged. Mr Speaker, this bill must not be passed.

Date14:01:14, May 20, 2010 CET
FromHutorian Conservative Party
ToDebating the State Operations Act
MessageDuke Peter McCullum, HNP Leader,

Mr Speaker, is it considered racist to look after your own citizens interests? It seems the CLP have caved into the PC world of politics, wheras the HNP deal with the real issues which is keeping Hutorian businesses in Hutorian hands. As for the point about internationalism, there are no regulations being introduced about international media content.

Date14:05:36, May 20, 2010 CET
FromConservative-Libertarian Party (UM)
ToDebating the State Operations Act
MessageMr Speaker, let me quote Article VI:

"The government runs it's own internet with government approved content only and no connection to the rest of the world."

Is this not a regulation of international media content? Mr Speaker, the HNP should admit they made a mistake and admit that international media content will now be dramatically regulated.

Mr Speaker, of course looking after citizens' interests is not racist. But banning foreign individuals from investing is not looking after the interests of citizens, and it is most definitely based on racism.

And can we thank the gentleman from the FFF for admitting what the CLP have been saying along. It is the fascist parties that believe in corporatism, and government tying itself to the whims of industry, not the CLP. Mr Speaker, this demonstrates that the FFF are in a different league to the HNP altogether. The HNP could learn a thing or two from their allies about honesty and integrity.

Date14:14:07, May 20, 2010 CET
FromHutorian Conservative Party
ToDebating the State Operations Act
MessageMr Speaker, the CLP have shown they have a fundamental problem. They believe it is their job to protect the citizens of the entire world, yet they continually neglect the citizens within their own nation with regards to removing government infrastructure systems that people need.

As regards the supposed CLP victory about the FFF admitting its aims? Clearly the FFF is an openly Fascist Party so theres no victory there. The HNP however is not a fascist party, we are a radical nationalist party that believes in putting its own citizens first and we are firm believers in Patriotism. Whilst we have lots in common with the FFF, we are not a Fascist party.

Date14:35:06, May 20, 2010 CET
FromConservative-Libertarian Party (UM)
ToDebating the State Operations Act
MessageMr Speaker, how are we protecting the citizens of the entire world? We believe that the internet that is available for Hutorians should be free from government regulation, except for where it is very basically needed. Mr Speaker, wanting our citizens to access content from abroad is not about protecting citizens from elsewhere, it is about very much ensuring that our citizens have access to a range of media, free from government intrusion and censorship.

The other point the HNP makes misses our point entirely. The HNP have continually claimed that the CLP is a corporatist party. Finally, the FFF have admitted that it is actually their policies that are more akin to corporatism. That level of honesty is what we were praising, Mr Speaker.

Date14:36:05, May 20, 2010 CET
FromFortunato's Fascist Formation
ToDebating the State Operations Act
MessageMr Speaker, I do not think that the Conservative Libertarian Party are familiar with Fascist doctrine. The HNP are clearly a National Socialist Party. Whilst we the FFF are an openly Fascist Party. We share similiar views national pride, military, industry and now partly economics but we Fascists believe in individual responsibility. Education, healthcare and social progress are fundamental areas that we do not agree on. If we did agree on these issues, we would be the same party. We often criticise the Labour/Conservative Coalition but the two parties share, two incompatible ideologies. Their government has been indecisive.

Date14:41:31, May 20, 2010 CET
FromConservative-Libertarian Party (UM)
ToDebating the State Operations Act
MessageMr Speaker, the CLP understands very much the philosophy behind Fascism - we are simply attempting to explain to the members of the HNP that libertarianism does not equate to corporatism. We are putting to bed a myth perpetrated by the HNP for many, many years now.

Mr Speaker, yes, the CLP and Labour differ greatly on economics. But our views on civil liberties are at one, and are arguably much more important. Mr Speaker, we are united in order to prevent the state from completely oppressing the individual as would happen under any government which was led by fascism.

Date14:55:49, May 20, 2010 CET
FromFortunato's Fascist Formation
ToDebating the State Operations Act
MessageMr Speaker, it's true that we fascists despise democracy and we do seek to create an authoritarian regime, our party calls for the emergence of a man "ruthless and energetic enough to make a clean sweep" to revive the Kingdom of Hutori. We will disguise our intentions, we will be open, we will be honest about our goals.

Date14:56:11, May 20, 2010 CET
FromFortunato's Fascist Formation
ToDebating the State Operations Act
MessageWe will not disguise*

Date15:46:07, May 20, 2010 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the State Operations Act
MessageWe cannot accept this.

Date15:57:54, May 20, 2010 CET
FromHutorian Conservative Party
ToDebating the State Operations Act
MessageAgain, Mr Speaker, perhaps the Labour Party could debate the issue? They have only given us their usual saying of whether they will vote yay or nay. I suppose we could take the CLP's answer on behalf of the Labour Party given they are followers of the CLP.

Date11:30:30, May 21, 2010 CET
FromConservative-Libertarian Party (UM)
ToDebating the State Operations Act
MessageMr Speaker, the HNP's criticisms of the Labour Party bear great resemblance to their own actions! Until an individual or party has self-awareness, it should not lecture others on their actions.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 175

no
  

Total Seats: 216

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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