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Bill: State Religion
Details
Submitted by[?]: Christian Conservative Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2958
Description[?]:
| Due to the obvious opposition and hesitation with regards to previous attempts at introducing a state religion, the Christian Conservative Party would like to open the debate for a state religion. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is an official state religion, and membership is mandatory.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:41:50, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Christian Conservative Party | To | Debating the State Religion |
| Message | This introduction would create an official state religion, but would not force the population to participate in it. It will reinforce our religious heritage and preserve the history of our great nation. Also, please note that our official sport is football, and not everyone plays it. Why is having this official state sport so much different than having an official state religion? Or animal for that matter? |
| Date | 11:49:16, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Federal Constitutionalist Party | To | Debating the State Religion |
| Message | Agree as long as it does stay voluntary. It is like the state bird we couldn't force people to have an osprey in their homes. First of all this is a very large bird, secondly it is just impractical. |
| Date | 15:09:26, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Rerum Novarum Party | To | Debating the State Religion |
| Message | New proposal: Everyone must own an osprey. Haha |
| Date | 17:16:05, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Communist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the State Religion |
| Message | Definately not. Religion must stay seperate from the state in all ways. Otherwise it would alienate other religions. What about the significantly large Jewish population in Clenon? OOC: "First of all this is a very large bird" haha. |
| Date | 17:16:31, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Libertarian Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the State Religion |
| Message | I don't support having an official sport or an official animal. These are simply things that you little girls can't live without. |
| Date | 22:19:36, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Paleofederalist Party | To | Debating the State Religion |
| Message | What religion are we talking about? |
| Date | 22:52:44, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Rerum Novarum Party | To | Debating the State Religion |
| Message | We would be assuming the state religion would be Christianity. However, the other religions wouldn't be alienated anymore than a person who plays baseball instead of football. OOC: Ut Utum Sint is recommended for those with questions about Christianity in relation to other religions. |
| Date | 21:12:12, June 16, 2010 CET | From | Paleofederalist Party | To | Debating the State Religion |
| Message | Any certain denomination? We can support a national religion, just like we support other national icons, however, we cannot have one that isolates different denominations. |
| Date | 13:58:30, June 21, 2010 CET | From | Christian Conservative Party | To | Debating the State Religion |
| Message | Catholicism. |
| Date | 03:31:58, June 23, 2010 CET | From | Paleofederalist Party | To | Debating the State Religion |
| Message | A national religion/denomination of this type will cause negative regionalism within the nation. We wish to allow provinces to decide on such matters. |
| Date | 13:55:14, June 24, 2010 CET | From | Rerum Novarum Party | To | Debating the State Religion |
| Message | Christianity would be the choice, however fringe groups cause worry as to how Christianity would be honoured nationally (think Westboro Baptists) as well as groups which claim Christian status (think Jehovah's Witnesses), I may recommend Trentine Christianity which is not a particular denomination of Christianity, but instead would refer to a credo of shared beliefs (similar to the 'Mere Christianity' presented by C.S. Lewis). |
| Date | 17:25:18, June 25, 2010 CET | From | Libertarian Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the State Religion |
| Message | C.S. Lewis did not introduce any kind of unique christianity that was designed not to be any particular denomination; he simply highlighted the core beliefs that atleast some of the Christians in every denomination agree with. He did not even delve into whether or not certian denominations were more "correct" in their specific denominational beliefs. He specifically stated he was not touching that subject and was leaving open as it was the point of the book. He did NOT however, introduce any kind "Christianity" that is similar "Trentine" Christianity. He himself even belongs to a denomination; the point he was trying to make is that your denomination is not what makes you Christian and that denominational differences are focused on too much by Christians rather than the actual core/important beliefs upon which Christianity based. |
| Date | 22:13:35, June 25, 2010 CET | From | Rerum Novarum Party | To | Debating the State Religion |
| Message | You're an idiot. Read this line "I may recommend Trentine Christianity which is -not- a particular denomination of Christianity, but instead would refer to a -credo of shared beliefs- (similar to the 'Mere Christianity' presented by C.S. Lewis)." |
| Date | 23:04:42, June 25, 2010 CET | From | Libertarian Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the State Religion |
| Message | Yeah, sorry chief, it won't happen again |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 72 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 120 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 23 |
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