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Bill: "National security act" 2954
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Forces of Decay
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2955
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Curfew policy (curfew time to be determined in the bill description).
Old value:: No curfew policies may be established.
Current: The national government may impose curfews, but only if a state of emergency has been declared.
Proposed: The national government may impose curfews, but only if a state of emergency has been declared.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:48:08, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the "National security act" 2954 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, yet more control, more erosion of civil liberties and more oppression. Soon, the government will run out of areas of which they can deprive the people of their freeom. |
| Date | 16:01:51, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the "National security act" 2954 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, this works for us, we shall vote yes. |
| Date | 16:05:44, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the "National security act" 2954 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, are the government quite sure that it goes far enough? Why not permanent curfews? I mean, the people soon won't be able to travel outside of the country. Why should they be able to leave their own homes?! |
| Date | 17:47:56, June 15, 2010 CET | From | United Forces of Decay | To | Debating the "National security act" 2954 |
| Message | Because there's simply no need for permanent curfews. The government already controls its inferiors the way it wants it to be. Now we have to care about the security of the people. Should a war or civil unrest break out, we have to make sure that common people stay at home and do not interfere with the state while he's solving the problem. |
| Date | 21:51:39, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the "National security act" 2954 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, would the government really call the people it serves its inferiors?? Does the NSC agree with this remark? |
| Date | 22:00:18, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the "National security act" 2954 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, i think its more bad wording from the UFD than anything else. Yes the people are inferior in that they are governed by the state which can control their destines. The state is inferior because they can vote us out. It works both ways Madam Speaker, but i think its more bad terminology by the UFD |
| Date | 22:20:05, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the "National security act" 2954 |
| Message | Oh and Madam Speaker, will the SPU still recieve CLP and Labour critism for their vote in this Bill? I doubt it. |
| Date | 22:41:21, June 15, 2010 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the "National security act" 2954 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, I would support this bill also of it was in normal circumstances. However, our current government, which sees itself as superior to the people it serves, would willingly declare a state of emergency over the death of Baal the slaughterer's cat. |
| Date | 10:15:37, June 16, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the "National security act" 2954 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, the statements by both the NSC and the UFD demonstrate a basic ideological difference. For we in the CLP believe that the people are superior and the state is the servant. We, Madam Speaker, are the people's representatives and serve the people. Individuals are what makes a state strong, not a bureaucracy. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 252 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 139 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Make sure your nation casts its nominations in Particracy's very own Security Council elections! For more information, see http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=8453 |
| Random quote: “Where would the weapons and equipment come from once you've banned the defence industry? Will we be defended by all your hippy people hurling potatoes and cabbages?” - Margaret Woodhall, former Dranian politician |