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Bill: Militia Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Anarcho-Primitivist Concern
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2970
Description[?]:
| The purpose of this bill is to allow other groups to operate along the same lines as the Red Tigers. Civilian militias, tightly regulated to prevent the use of their guns in peace time, would provide a check on the power of the government in times of war. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Adult individuals may not own firearms unless professionally required.
Current: Individuals are not permitted to own firearms under any circumstances.
Proposed: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:36:43, July 15, 2010 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Militia Act |
| Message | We don't support, sorry. Gun Control is important to us. I'm pretty sure it will pass though. |
| Date | 16:58:37, July 15, 2010 CET | From | Art & Labour | To | Debating the Militia Act |
| Message | We, er, agree with SCI, particularly since it was our bill that put gun control on the agenda in the first place. It is sad to see that the LL are having to resort to Nazism and forming terrorist groups intent on undermining the democratic voice of the people in order to maintain what little remaining grip they hold on power. |
| Date | 17:36:53, July 15, 2010 CET | From | Anarcho-Primitivist Concern | To | Debating the Militia Act |
| Message | As is so often the case, I'm not sure the SLD grasps what we're trying to do at all. The aim of this is not to form terrorist groups, but to provide groups to exist which would compete with the Red Tigers. We have our paramilitary group in the form of the Red Tigers, we just thought it would be wise to allow other parties the same right to establish militias. This will give us a better trained reserve army, and it will mean that the communists do not have an unfair advantage. It will also legitimise the Red Tigers, which serves the interests of the Leftist League. So everybody wins. If arming your political opponents and allowing them the same rights you enjoy can be understood as Nazi, then we are not sure the word has any meaning. |
| Date | 20:07:30, July 15, 2010 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Militia Act |
| Message | We mustn't support militia, as each and every group will be independent, and that could lead to chaos, and even a civil war. We disagree with this bill. |
| Date | 21:28:52, July 15, 2010 CET | From | Lyika ati Isọdọtun | To | Debating the Militia Act |
| Message | Paramilitary forces are invariably a threat to--not a defender of--democracy. |
| Date | 21:31:15, July 15, 2010 CET | From | Dark Templar (LL) | To | Debating the Militia Act |
| Message | We see this going towards a civil war in Ikradon as WLI 2.0 would simply just use this as these militias to further there acts of oppression over the working class. |
| Date | 21:39:29, July 15, 2010 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Militia Act |
| Message | This coming from the organisation which holds the only militia force in Ikradon, and who wants to aid the religious crusaders a continent away, in their illegal civil war. Ban any and every militia in Ikradon, dissolve the Red Tigers. DT obviously sees that only the LL should be allowed a militia wing. |
| Date | 00:03:08, July 16, 2010 CET | From | Lyika ati Isọdọtun | To | Debating the Militia Act |
| Message | WLI 2.0 does not exist--"WLI 1.0" itself barely existed and only as a moderate alternative to the extremes of LL policy. The FFP strongly believes that our armed forces must be democratically controlled and fully accountable to this assembly; as such, we support the banning of all private militias. |
| Date | 00:04:46, July 16, 2010 CET | From | Lyika ati Isọdọtun | To | Debating the Militia Act |
| Message | Furthermore, the RM-S's proposal sounds dangerously close to advocating the settling of political differences through violence rather than through debate and discussion. |
| Date | 00:39:53, July 16, 2010 CET | From | Mountain Man Party | To | Debating the Militia Act |
| Message | We support reducin' gun control restrictions. We ain't gonna debate militias and stuff, but we like the basics of this proposals. |
| Date | 03:11:13, July 16, 2010 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Militia Act |
| Message | @SLD: -----"that the LL are having to resort to Nazism" Unfounded Assertion. Dismissed. -----"what little remaining grip they hold on power" Yeah, over 50%... we're just deluding ourselves.... |
| Date | 17:54:56, July 16, 2010 CET | From | Art & Labour | To | Debating the Militia Act |
| Message | We dont count SCI as left wing, given that SCI is a party for racist, fascist scum. Or should I have been heiling to your Parteifuhrer? |
| Date | 02:33:05, July 17, 2010 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Militia Act |
| Message | "racist, fascist" We have never supported racist policies nor have we supported capitalistic or elitist policies. Assertion denied. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 291 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 459 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Treaties will be eligible for deletion if they are more than 50 in-game years old and have no currently ratified members. |
| Random quote: "I never dared to be radical when young. For fear it would make me conservative when old." - Robert Frost |