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Bill: Military Reversal Bill2
Details
Submitted by[?]: Stanton House
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2972
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: Defence industries are privately owned and not subsidised.
Current: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Proposed: Defence industries are privately owned but subsidised by the state.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Current: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Proposed: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:22:21, July 20, 2010 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Military Reversal Bill2 |
| Message | I will never support homophobia, and the discrimination that results from the insecurity of those who propose such laws. |
| Date | 14:49:31, July 20, 2010 CET | From | Stanton House | To | Debating the Military Reversal Bill2 |
| Message | i think the open homosexuality dersurty the unit to not had homosexuality in the military is undermionrt an d not frar on the |
| Date | 18:56:18, July 20, 2010 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Military Reversal Bill2 |
| Message | It isn't "homophobia" to tell people to shut their fruity mouth and get to work! Nobody wants to hear about what manner of faggery their mates have been getting up to, least of all our nation's fighting men!! |
| Date | 19:05:17, July 20, 2010 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Military Reversal Bill2 |
| Message | There is no reason forbid it though. Why does everyone assume that when someone is gay they tell everyone, and force it on everyone else? A persons sexuality is nothing to do with the government, and definately nothing to do with their place of work. |
| Date | 00:36:31, July 21, 2010 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Military Reversal Bill2 |
| Message | We don't assume, we know it by practical experience! Let us imagine one had the most undignified and depraved sex possible, yet managed to do so silently and without rousing the neighboring townsfolk and constables. We are to assume that this information would be obscene and objectionable in the extreme, and he should be most reprehensible were he to disclose the matter amongst respectable and distinguished gatherers. How then could sex fiends be allowed to profane their uniform and disgrace their rank with such monstrous and unnatural tellings? How could our Beluzian finest be subject to such unspeakable horrors... Within their own barracks, no less!?! Who shall betray our fighting men to these backbiters and their loathsome rascality?!? 00c: In other words if you know anything about someones sexual orientation, they must have told you something. |
| Date | 14:41:24, July 21, 2010 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Military Reversal Bill2 |
| Message | We should not care, this is my point. Why does it matter what a person's sexuality is. |
| Date | 19:14:07, July 21, 2010 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Military Reversal Bill2 |
| Message | People have a right not to hear such things, esp. in a place of work, and even more especially in a governmental place of work. |
| Date | 19:42:19, July 21, 2010 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Military Reversal Bill2 |
| Message | Why do they have a right? Does the individual not have equal right to their own privacy? They are homosexual, not pedofiles and rapists. The government should take the lead in this by firstly not asking people to disclose their sexual orientation, and secondly accepting it when that information is revealed. |
| Date | 02:48:54, July 22, 2010 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Military Reversal Bill2 |
| Message | Slow down there! First of all we always have the right to remain silent. If we don't tell others things or otherwise behave inappropriately, why should there be a problem? Also, re: pedophiles, rapists, masturbators, flashers, sheep shaggers and the like, they were always viewed in a similar light to homosexuals, and still are in many cases. Of course we are all up for a bit of girl-on-girl so long as they are proper ladies about it, but is it right for there to be noisy mano a mano arse-shagging keeping the lads up all night when they've their own exercises bright and early at sunup? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 381 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 119 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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