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Bill: Puerile "Politicians" For Free
Details
Submitted by[?]: National People's Gang
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2140
Description[?]:
| Having established that the Faithful Remnants represent little value, aside from their meaningless rhetoric and their ability to dupe voters, lie, decieve and cheat, it is our proposition to give away this organisation in its entirety. This excellent bargain would thrive as a going concern in the paradise of a capitalist dreamworld as members have shown consistently that they would be willing to trade their own grandmothers as long as there is no import duty. Alternatively, state communists may wish to purchase the party for coffee table display purposes as it is a remarkable curiosity. Prospective recipients are invited to examine the goods thoroughly, as returns are not applicable. The Faithful Remnants shall be given free to whosoever is prepared to accept the burden. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Current: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Proposed: Religions are not permitted to promote themselves or advertise in any manner whatsoever.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: No religions are taxed.
Current: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Proposed: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: Wearing religious clothing or religious symbols in public is illegal.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Any religion may set up a school, with no regulations.
Current: Only recognised religions may set up religious schools, with no regulations.
Proposed: Religious schools are not allowed.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: Ministers of religion shall receive no remuneration whatsoever.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are encouraged.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:46:28, November 10, 2005 CET | From | Slaytanic Wehrmacht | To | Debating the Puerile "Politicians" For Free |
| Message | i think you can only sell your own property? |
| Date | 22:01:58, November 10, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Puerile "Politicians" For Free |
| Message | Socialists like to sell or give away things belonging to others. This is nothing new. ((if he expects me to give away my password though...only one(now inactive) player on particracy knows it)) |
| Date | 22:03:20, November 10, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Puerile "Politicians" For Free |
| Message | Personally, I think 1 LOD is a bit low: http://82.238.75.178:8085/particracy/main/ranking.php |
| Date | 22:14:35, November 10, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Puerile "Politicians" For Free |
| Message | We bid three bottle caps and the key to the executive loo. |
| Date | 23:22:23, November 10, 2005 CET | From | International Society of Bankers | To | Debating the Puerile "Politicians" For Free |
| Message | Dammit GA, how are we supposed to beat that? |
| Date | 23:32:09, November 10, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the Puerile "Politicians" For Free |
| Message | We are not selling the FRs, we are bringing a bill to parliament proposing a sale. As with Norstavan, it will be for representatives to decide whether they have the authority to sanction the sale. |
| Date | 23:45:45, November 10, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Puerile "Politicians" For Free |
| Message | Take a look at the maps from the last two elections. Norstavanis are freaks and they dont belong here |
| Date | 23:48:56, November 10, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Puerile "Politicians" For Free |
| Message | I bid $10000 LOD and i will pay up front. I have the money proclaims leader of the FP, Till Lindemann |
| Date | 00:10:24, November 11, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the Puerile "Politicians" For Free |
| Message | How did the Freedom Party acquire $10,000 LOD? Is it genuine? |
| Date | 00:12:47, November 11, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Puerile "Politicians" For Free |
| Message | Lodamun dollars are common on the currency exchanges, we see no reason to doubt that Mr. Lindermann aquired it legitimately. |
| Date | 03:13:08, November 11, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the Puerile "Politicians" For Free |
| Message | The only legitimate acquisition would be through earning it. |
| Date | 03:29:34, November 11, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Puerile "Politicians" For Free |
| Message | Earned through Rutanian Rutas, converted into Lodamun Dollars. Very legitimate. |
| Date | 06:50:57, November 11, 2005 CET | From | Lodamun Centre-Left Coalition | To | Debating the Puerile "Politicians" For Free |
| Message | YES to all article, btw. |
| Date | 09:28:11, November 11, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Puerile "Politicians" For Free |
| Message | Well, while we are all for capitalism, we must oppose every evil article this bill contains. Let it be known that a sale requires the sellers consent, and that someday, such thoughts and heresy shall not be permitted. The Equitistans shall suffer a holy vengeance on that day! Fire and brimstone shall lovingly consume them, and their deaths shall be painful and glorious! |
| Date | 21:49:40, November 11, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the Puerile "Politicians" For Free |
| Message | Jesus blood never failed me yet. |
| Date | 00:01:18, November 13, 2005 CET | From | International Society of Bankers | To | Debating the Puerile "Politicians" For Free |
| Message | Support 2 and 6, but not the others, so no. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 70 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 169 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: When you join the game, you will find yourself with only zero seats. That's because your party's representatives haven't been elected yet. You need to establish your party's position on issues by proposing several bills that your party wants passed and sending them to vote. This raises your visibility and if you do it enough, you will win seats at the next election. |
| Random quote: "Communism is like prohibition, it's a good idea but it won't work." - Will Rogers |