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Bill: Solentian Centrist Initiative VI: Nuclear Disarmament (CMP-SCI-VI)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2985
Description[?]:
| Centre Moderate Party: Solentian Centrist Initiative Six- Nuclear Disarmament Written by: Ryain Jensen, Shadow Secretary of State for Defence Proposed by: Senator Edmund Rossen, Shadow Secretary of State for Justice |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons on non-civilian areas.
Current: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare.
Proposed: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The policy with respect to nuclear weaponry.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to develop, produce and store nuclear arms.
Current: The nation shall never produce or store nuclear weaponry for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Proposed: The nation shall never produce or store nuclear weaponry for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:06:01, August 15, 2010 CET | From |  Sue's Corner | To | Debating the Solentian Centrist Initiative VI: Nuclear Disarmament (CMP-SCI-VI) |
| Message | I've got a better idea! How about all the Shadow Defence Spokespeople go along personally and set all weaponary on fire, disarm soliders, tie them to a piece of wood, throw them in the sea and then give satalite navigation systems to the enemy with the best instructions of how to invade us and topple the government! All these proposals are idealism gone mad. We may not like having to make and store nucleur weapons, but as long as other countries are doing so we have no choice, otherwise we open ourselves to a direct attack. Jim Fletcher Foreign Secretary |
| Date | 14:15:20, August 15, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Solentian Centrist Initiative VI: Nuclear Disarmament (CMP-SCI-VI) |
| Message | "And who exactly do you suppose shall be invading? Our long-standing allies in Quanzar? Or all of the nations of Terra who have never heard of us perhaps? Solentia has been the most neutral, isolated nation for practically a thousand years, if anyone wanted to invade us, I'm sure they would have. The CMP have no intention of forming enemies where none presently exist, does the Foreign Secretary have a plan to do so? If not, I strongly suggest he returns to Terra from that paranoid-ridden cloud in the sky he lives now." Lawrence Kos, Shadow Secretary of State for Defence |
| Date | 14:22:48, August 15, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the Solentian Centrist Initiative VI: Nuclear Disarmament (CMP-SCI-VI) |
| Message | That ladies and gentlemen, shows the senate why the CMP lost seats, why nobody wants them in their government and why the public treat them as the joke of Solentia. Disarming our defence industries, leaving us wide open for attack. They may say we live on a paranoid cloud, they clearly live on cloud cuckoo land if they seriously think for one moment that they can disarm us in this way. All it takes, is one of many countries to threaten us and if these insane laws passed, we would leave our country and our people open to attack. Another area of policy where the CMP is weak, lazy and soft on. Let prisoners take over the prisons, let criminals take over the streets and NOW let war criminals destroy lives and our country. The CMP is the worst, most destructive and most extreme force in Solentian politics right now. If these laws pass or not, we declare war on them, because we put first the interests of Solentian people and their safety. Jim Fletcher Foreign Secretary |
| Date | 14:28:54, August 15, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Solentian Centrist Initiative VI: Nuclear Disarmament (CMP-SCI-VI) |
| Message | "The fact that the Conservative Party is worried by a Centrist Party when faced with Nuncirism in the Senate, highlights why they are simply not fit to Govern. Now they're talking declarations of war. Terrorist activity being promoted in Senate. It would be funny if it weren't so digusting." Lawrence Kos, Shadow Secretary of State for Defence |
| Date | 14:30:39, August 15, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the Solentian Centrist Initiative VI: Nuclear Disarmament (CMP-SCI-VI) |
| Message | Given that are just as bad as the nuncrists, as your policy wants to allow terrorism and warfare in the country, you are showing why you are not even fit to be a political party, nevermind govern. Jim Fletcher Foreign Secretary |
| Date | 14:32:38, August 15, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Solentian Centrist Initiative VI: Nuclear Disarmament (CMP-SCI-VI) |
| Message | "I believe it was you who has just declared war, not us. I think it's clear who the terrorists are." Lawrence Kos, Shadow Secretary of State for Defence |
| Date | 14:37:17, August 15, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the Solentian Centrist Initiative VI: Nuclear Disarmament (CMP-SCI-VI) |
| Message | It will be at least a clear choice at the next election. Disarming our defence industry- CMP, taking away nucleur weaponary- CMP, thereby increase warfare, terrorism and the risk of invasion and death- CMP. You can play about with peoples lives with your happy clappy, do gooder, everybody is a lovely as us mentality, but the government, the public and I am confident the senate will not take the same decisions, because we have a duty to care for peoples lives, peoples security and the continuing growth and prosperity of Solentia. It is a real shame the CMP doesn't have the same priorities and wishes for us to go to war and put people directly in the line of danger, whilst they run away, hide and try and find a member who actually HAS a backbone! Jim Fletcher Foreign Secretary |
| Date | 17:25:40, August 15, 2010 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Solentian Centrist Initiative VI: Nuclear Disarmament (CMP-SCI-VI) |
| Message | This is not a chamber to threaten Civil War with. The distinguished gentleman of the Convervative Party must be ware if his party made good its threats and used its militias to attack another party, it would face the entirety of the state. God wills it. Let us return to courtly forum. Senate Warden, Lord Belisarius |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 37 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 53 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 10 |
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