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Bill: Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Party of Solentia
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes to change income taxes. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 3000
Description[?]:
| The DITP 2996 uses Distributed Income Tax formulas created by the Utilitarian Party of Solentia (http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=293622) to more equally distribute the tax load among all Solentians. Citizens making less than 0.5 times the GDP per capita (1 < x < 14150) will be required to pay 14% of income to the State. Citizens making more than than 0.5 times the GDP per capita but less than 1 times the GDP per capita (14150 < x < 28300) will be required to pay 20% of income to the State. Citizens making more than than 1 times the GDP per capita but less than 1.5 times the GDP per capita (28300 < x < 42450) will be required to pay 29% of income to the State. Citizens making more than than 1.5 times the GDP per capita but less than 2 times the GDP per capita (42450 < x < 56600) will be required to pay 35% of income to the State. Citizens making more than than 2 times the GDP per capita but less than 2.5 times the GDP per capita (56600 < x < 70750) will be required to pay 41% of income to the State. Citizens making more than than 2.5 times the GDP per capita but less than 3 times the GDP per capita (70750 < x < 84900) will be required to pay 46% of income to the State. Citizens making more than than 3 times the GDP per capita (84900 < x) will be required to pay 50% of income to the State. No citizen shall pay more than half of his income to the government. This will represent an income tax revenue increase of 1.88 times. This money will be used (at the discretion of the finance ministry) to fund government projects which have been drastically underfunded for decades (such as education, defence, and healthcare.) The SSCP yields the floor for discussion. |
Proposals
Article 1
We propose to alter income tax brackets to the following setup. Information about the current income tax system can be found here.
| Bracket | Tax | Estimated Revenue |
| > 1 SOL | 14% | 111,875,000,000 SOL |
| > 14,150 SOL | 20% | 141,029,000,000 SOL |
| > 28,300 SOL | 29% | 144,356,000,000 SOL |
| > 42,450 SOL | 35% | 112,466,000,000 SOL |
| > 56,600 SOL | 41% | 83,373,000,000 SOL |
| > 70,750 SOL | 46% | 76,262,000,000 SOL |
| > 84,900 SOL | 50% | 65,336,000,000 SOL |
| > 99,050 SOL | 50% | 77,178,000,000 SOL | Total | 811,875,000,000 SOL |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:02:46, September 07, 2010 CET | From |  Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | 20 percent for those that make under 14,150 is harsh for those arleady in poverty. Perhaps we should just hold them upside down and shake them till the loose coinage falls out. |
| Date | 19:11:02, September 07, 2010 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | The 20% taxation falls upon the bracket making more than 14,150 SOL but less than 28,300 SOL a year. Under the current taxation scheme, the closest bracket to this accounts for 1,481,457,156,781 SOL per year. Under this taxation scheme, that same bracket would need only account for 1,041,975,000,000 SOL per year. |
| Date | 19:11:25, September 07, 2010 CET | From | Federal Independent Party | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | Absolutely not. FIP Senator Fidel Bridgen |
| Date | 20:53:22, September 07, 2010 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | "Does the Senator from the Federal Independents wish to elaborate any further upon his reasoning? State programs suffer from massive underfunding, given recent nationalization and socialization of a fair amount of the economy, WHICH THE FIP supported, at least in part. It is true that Solentians will operate with less income after taxation each year, but the services provided to them free of charge will allow for them to spend less money at the same time. If you wish for social programs, you must fund them adequately, or else leave the people to the whims of the free market, which I was under the impression was not the aim of the Federal Independents. You cannot go halfway, so to speak." Martin Beckons |
| Date | 02:45:45, September 08, 2010 CET | From | Federal Independent Party | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | I will not support theft by the government of the people. This is not a rational way to address serious issues, rather it is illogical, excessive, and punitive. FIP Senator Fidel Bridgen |
| Date | 03:35:47, September 08, 2010 CET | From | Social Justice Party | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | This proposal puts too high a burden on lower-income earners. In any case, the government does not need that amount of money! Ada Ashworth Finance Minister |
| Date | 11:59:11, September 08, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | "The Unionist Bloc supports the proposal. Education and Healthcare ought to be adequately funded through taxation." Martyn Keimai, Unionist Finance Spokesman. |
| Date | 14:20:44, September 08, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | Why would even more money be granted to health and education, when nothing new is being passed or proposed by the government? The tax rises and massive surges in spending is getting out of control. Parties supporting this proposal should remember the massive tax rises on the poor members of society who cannot afford to pay such high taxes. Coleen Power Shadow Finance. |
| Date | 14:30:42, September 08, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | "The Conservatives once more forget that Solentia is in surplus. Surges in spending in recent times have not required a single tax increase. They really are showing their inability to handle the nation's finances and debate them to an adequate level. This change is designed to make provision for further improvements and developments to the nation's medical and academic wellbeing. With nationalisation and socialisation taking place, the budget for many years been inadequate. We have been Health Services, Schools and Education Services and infrastructure industires fall, at least in part, into the hands of the state. It is our duty as elected members of this house to ensure that the budget is updated to reflect the legislative agenda and to ensure that what is passed in Senate has the substance to back it. In short, we need figures to put to our votes." Martyn Keimai, Unionist Finance Spokesman. |
| Date | 17:13:10, September 08, 2010 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | The Crown Party bid's its "Fair Weather Partner" farewell, with the collapse of the cabinet. Until a new government can be put together, the roles will be handled by staffers within their administrative department structures. |
| Date | 17:13:32, September 08, 2010 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | uh. didnt mean to post that at this area |
| Date | 20:53:54, September 08, 2010 CET | From | Social Renewal Party | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | A wholly sensible calculus. We'll support wholeheartedly. |
| Date | 14:24:47, September 10, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | We don't forget anything CMP/Unionists, we simply don't understand why having a surplus means that we have to top of dept. budgets, when we can just as easily give tax breaks. Coleen Power Shadow Finance |
| Date | 18:25:43, September 10, 2010 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | "Because Departments are drastically underfunded." Teddy Ollerenshaw, Finance Secretary. ooc: because the dept. budget numbers are not realistic, we are collectivly working to ensure that the figures make sense. You cannot have a nationalised health service and have the numbers we do. It's insane. |
| Date | 02:13:18, September 11, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | ooc- but as we dont support a national health service, we would also realistically oppose this. I guess these figures haven't been amended by former players, as the history of health has gone private-public repeatedly and the budget never changes for this. |
| Date | 06:15:47, September 11, 2010 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | OOC: The problem, CP, is that while the numbers remain unrealistic, using IC reasons to refuse an OOCly necessary bill is obstructive. You're allowed and encouraged to oppose taxes, and to work to bring them lower, but can't you do that once we have a reasonable benchmark to start from? Lower them from here, not from LOW in the first place. |
| Date | 00:49:17, September 15, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | This is very harsh on lower income families and we must oppose. Coleen Power Shadow Finance. |
| Date | 01:02:51, September 15, 2010 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | Ms. Power, For the reasons described above, (OOC: The second discussion post) we have displayed that the lower classes are called upon to supply less revenue. We ask that you reconsider. Martin Beckons OOC: And for the OOC reasons I just mentioned in my last post. |
| Date | 02:26:19, September 15, 2010 CET | From | Sue's Corner | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | We still thin 14% is too much for under that 14,000 barrier. Coleen Power Shadow Finance. |
| Date | 10:22:59, September 15, 2010 CET | From | Social Justice Party | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | The SDWU would be willing to support a revised budget proposal with a 5% tax for earnings under 15,000 SOL which would effectively reduce the total budget based on our estimates to roughly 5.9 trillion SOL. Winifred Bootsma SDWU Finance Spokesperson |
| Date | 16:40:43, September 15, 2010 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | Mr(/s?). Bootsma, The purpose of this bracket is to provided a distributed tax. The tax burden must fall equally on each bracket, and it does so through undiscriminating calculations. The lowest tax bracket may not simply get off with a much lower tax burden while the middle and upper classes are required to pick up the slack, and besides, the Solentian budget cannot run with any less, this proposal leaves more to be wanted, in the first place. Martin Beckons |
| Date | 17:30:22, September 15, 2010 CET | From | Social Justice Party | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | We understand the equations behind your proposal and we do share a common goal in improving the nations ability to fund your government's program. We have previous opposed anything more than a token 1% tax on those earning less than 15000 SOL and believe that a 5% figure would be a reasonable compromise position for the Senate to take. This would provide more than enough government revenue without placing unnecessary strain on low-income Solentians who we believe are not in a financial position to be able to take such a hike in their taxes. With such an amendment we will offer our full support. Mrs. Winifred Bootsma SDWU Finance Spokesperson |
| Date | 20:03:42, September 15, 2010 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | Some parties are hamstringing our options over a minor bit of ideological grandstanding. Call it what it is. |
| Date | 20:17:03, September 15, 2010 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Distributed Income Tax Proposal of 2996 |
| Message | "Indeed, Supreme President Toynbee's party is unfortunately correct. I fear for our nation when we cannot agree to fund programs that we have already decided to provide." Martin Beckons |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 151 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 188 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 86 |
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