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Bill: Personal Enhancement
Details
Submitted by[?]: Aldurian Moderates
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2141
Description[?]:
People may need financial governmnental assistance on occasion. Life brings challanges. However, the goverment can not be expected to continually support those who fail to advance themselves. All individuals and citizens should try to make their lives the best they can. Therefore, the government must be able to protect it's programs from abuse. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 09:27:07, November 12, 2005 CET | From | Market Socialist Party | To | Debating the Personal Enhancement |
Message | We disagree. We do not want a society where people must live on the streets and eat garbage...or nothing. Even if these people are lazy, we consider it a human right to 1. Shelter, 2. Basic food, 3. Basic clothing 4. an education 4. healthcare. We will not vote for this bill. |
Date | 10:38:20, November 12, 2005 CET | From | United Socialist Front | To | Debating the Personal Enhancement |
Message | In the original bill (proposed by this party) we stated that the worker must provide proof of his searching work, and his acceptance of jobs that do come his way. So, it is less on a period of time, and more on effort. |
Date | 01:53:26, November 13, 2005 CET | From | Aldurian Moderates | To | Debating the Personal Enhancement |
Message | But if they actually apply themselves, then their effort will garner their goal before the time restriction. |
Date | 02:34:09, November 13, 2005 CET | From | United Socialist Front | To | Debating the Personal Enhancement |
Message | Not necessarily. That is only if we are in a seriously large period of economic growth. Otherwise, there is a good chance that there may simply not be enough jobs. |
Date | 21:03:28, November 13, 2005 CET | From | Market Socialist Party | To | Debating the Personal Enhancement |
Message | Yes, very much so like here in Germany. The only think that is saving Germany from a revolution is the fact that there is a very good unemployment, welfare system. Here there is 10-20% unemployment and the job market is very competetive. |
Date | 04:22:19, November 14, 2005 CET | From | New Aldurian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Personal Enhancement |
Message | OOC: Yes, and that didn't stop the PDS from getting...what was it? 9-10% in the last election? It was just enough to have a hung parliament, I know that. IC: We agree with the Aldurian Moderates. This bill should pass, or another one similar to it, to remove those who consciously leech off of the government, making the hard-working citizens of this country pay their way in life. |
Date | 06:15:35, November 14, 2005 CET | From | Market Socialist Party | To | Debating the Personal Enhancement |
Message | Actually the PDS no longer exists...it merged with another Communist Party and has 5% in the Bundestag. |
Date | 17:01:42, November 14, 2005 CET | From | Aldurian Libertarian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Personal Enhancement |
Message | We agree with the MSP and will oppose this bill. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes | Total Seats: 188 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 213 | ||||
abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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Random quote: "It is vain to talk of the interest of the community, without understanding what is the interest of the individual" - Jeremy Bentham |