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Bill: Strengthing the Leviathan
Details
Submitted by[?]: Noocratic Movement
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 3017
Description[?]:
| see above (title is reference to Hobb's works!) |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortion is allowed during the first trimester.
Current: All abortions are illegal.
Proposed: All abortions are illegal.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:01:27, October 17, 2010 CET | From |  Noocratic Movement | To | Debating the Strengthing the Leviathan |
| Message | please comment |
| Date | 18:25:51, October 17, 2010 CET | From | Democratic Dictatorship Party | To | Debating the Strengthing the Leviathan |
| Message | 1) We are pro-choice and we believe that it's a womans right to choose to follow through or terminate a pregnancy within a reasonable amount of time and banning it would be a step backwards in civil liberties. 2) Public schooling is one of the most important aspects of a country as it educates our future. Making schooling a business is a very bad idea. Middle-class families would become poor paying for their children's tuition and poor students that payed with state benefits would be target of abuse. 3) We are Pro-secular and believe church and state should be separated. |
| Date | 18:45:40, October 17, 2010 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Strengthing the Leviathan |
| Message | We agree with our right-honourable colleagues of the DDP in regards articles 1 and 2, however so long as we would be maintaining Hobrazian religious practice as has been so thousands of years, then we would support the return of article 3. |
| Date | 04:21:50, October 18, 2010 CET | From | Noocratic Movement | To | Debating the Strengthing the Leviathan |
| Message | regarding the first article, some children will drop out. others will end up with crappy jobs any way. we cannot all be popes and kings. we need those who are interested and able to learn, to learn and those who aren't to start learning a profession early on. Garbage men are just as if not more important than politicians and philosophers. This bill is not plutocratic, but noocratic. Poor but bright children will be educated! Rich but stupid children wont! We hope that made this bill more appealing. |
| Date | 14:32:27, October 18, 2010 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Strengthing the Leviathan |
| Message | How does making education private improve the system? All we would be doing is introducing a system where the private sector makes money from the government by charging any amount they wish and the government being forced to provide said money in order to provide education to disadvantaged children. Moreover, there is nothing in this bill that would introduce a system that "Poor but bright children will be educated! Rich but stupid children wont!" all it does it make education more expensive and even more difficult for middle income earners to pay for education. This bill merely guarantees that some will not gain an educational chance because of their family background. |
| Date | 14:44:17, October 18, 2010 CET | From | Democratic Dictatorship Party | To | Debating the Strengthing the Leviathan |
| Message | ^ This. Rich and stupid kids will always go on with education while potentially bright stupid kids, even with state benefits, will drop out. The real losers are middle income families who would have to go into debit to pay for school. |
| Date | 02:11:54, October 19, 2010 CET | From | Noocratic Movement | To | Debating the Strengthing the Leviathan |
| Message | FIne. What do you have to say about the other articles? |
| Date | 13:43:35, October 19, 2010 CET | From | Democratic Dictatorship Party | To | Debating the Strengthing the Leviathan |
| Message | 1) We are pro-choice and we believe that it's a womans right to choose to follow through or terminate a pregnancy within a reasonable amount of time and banning it would be a step backwards in civil liberties. 2) 3) We are Pro-secular and believe church and state should be separated. As stated above. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |
| no | Total Seats: 203 | |
| abstain |
Total Seats: 197 |
| Random fact: Cultural Protocols should generally be reflective of RP conducted within the nation and should not significantly alter or modify the ethnic, religious or linguistic composition without considerable and reasonable role-play or other justification. |
| Random quote: "Up against the corporate government, voters find themselves asked to choose between look-alike candidates from two parties vying to see who takes the marching orders from their campaign paymasters and their future employers. The money of vested interest nullifies genuine voter choice and trust." - Ralph Nader |