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Bill: Police and Justice Reform Bill of 3025
Details
Submitted by[?]: People's Party - Republican Democrats
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 3026
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The terms of extradition.
Old value:: The law bars the government from extraditing anyone who is a citizen of the state.
Current: Extradition to nations that practice cruel or inhumane treatment of suspects or in punishment is not allowed.
Proposed: Extradition to nations with capital punishment or with cruel or inhumane treatment of suspects and convicts is not allowed.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Current: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place and the military is not allowed to play any part in it.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the organization of police/law enforcement
Old value:: There is a national police department, funded by the government.
Current: There is a national police department funded by the national government and there are local police departments, funded by local governments.
Proposed: There is a national police department funded by the national government and there are local police departments, funded by local governments.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Torture is never allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:39:36, November 05, 2010 CET | From | Nemangha Humananghô | To | Debating the Police and Justice Reform Bill of 3025 |
| Message | I can see where the People's Party - Civic Democratic Union is coming from with all articles but the first. What is wrong with military forces assisting a police department in serious emergencies? If a situation arose where it was impossible for civilian law enforcement to appropriately respond in optimal time, would it not be acceptable for the military to lend a hand? The nature of the emergency situation implies that this is something that happens infrequently. How can the Civic Democrats predict all law enforcement crises that will ever occur? Something entirely new and uncalled for could always arise, and it is foolish to deny the proper authorities the ability to respond to these unexpected events. Does the separation of the civilian police and the military need to be held so sacred as to hamper the abilities of both? In the event of a serious insurrection in one of the satrapies, one that local police are powerless to quell, who else but the military shall keep the order? |
| Date | 17:18:46, November 05, 2010 CET | From | People's Party - Republican Democrats | To | Debating the Police and Justice Reform Bill of 3025 |
| Message | The military is neither equipped nor has it been trained to deal with police work, and neither is the police for military purposes.They both have their separate work to do, and should be able to do so unhampered by the limitations of the other force. Dealing with insurrections is hardly police work anyway, unless the FRFSP regards any kind of protest as an insurrection. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 83 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 116 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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