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Bill: Treaty Withdrawals
Details
Submitted by[?]: Art & Labour
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes the withdrawal from a treaty. It will require half of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3029
Description[?]:
| To prevent government from favouring minority interests and perverts over the decent majority of the Ikradonian people. |
Proposals
Article 1
Withdraw from the World Nuclear Treaty.
Article 2
Withdraw from the International Treaty on the Abolishment of Segregation.
Article 3
Withdraw from the International agreement to ban torture.
Article 4
Withdraw from the Worker's Freedom Treaty.
Article 5
Withdraw from the Protection Of The Environment Act.
Article 6
Withdraw from the International Gay Rights treaty.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:21:31, November 10, 2010 CET | From |  Dark Templar (LL) | To | Debating the Treaty Withdrawals |
| Message | no |
| Date | 00:40:43, November 11, 2010 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Treaty Withdrawals |
| Message | Yes. I have ranted on this before but.... [rant] Why would you willingly restrict policy adjustments? It makes the game not fun at all for role-players! End all treaties now! [/rant] |
| Date | 17:06:20, November 11, 2010 CET | From | Art & Labour | To | Debating the Treaty Withdrawals |
| Message | Entirely OOCly, this isnt *all* treaties, its just those that a party with such dubious morality as mine wouldn't like. However, SCI's point is still valid. About half the crazy stuff I wanted to do was blocked by a treaty and whilst that may work out ok ICly for those playing at marxism it nevertheless restricts the options available. Since the whole game is basically just about picking different options to formulate some kind of ideology willingly restricting the options makes no sense unless you want every party to be the same, in which case the game becomes pointless (I left Particracy II because the great reforming government that I was part of ran out of things to reform and our ideologies were too similar for us to sustain the game any more). |
| Date | 17:48:08, November 11, 2010 CET | From | Syndicalist Party (LL) | To | Debating the Treaty Withdrawals |
| Message | OOC: I kind of agree with the URA. When I played ages ago with 4 parties, treaties where cool because made really difficult to cancel your reforms. With so many parties rigth now, is almost impossible to build a 2/3 block to withdraw/ratificate a treaty, so it is kind of a stall. I could have supported this or abstained, but maybe we should have discussed this a little longer before putting it to vote. |
| Date | 22:52:51, November 11, 2010 CET | From | Anarcho-Primitivist Concern | To | Debating the Treaty Withdrawals |
| Message | Yeah, I'm voting no for now. Though I could see the logic in withdrawing from all treaties. It needs discussing |
| Date | 00:10:21, November 12, 2010 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Treaty Withdrawals |
| Message | Withdrawing only needs 50%, ratifying needs 66%. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 192 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 558 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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