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Bill: Emergency Secular Bill

Details

Submitted by[?]: Dorvikische Volkspartei

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 3033

Description[?]:

http://classic.particracy.net/viewnews.php

"A mass suicide has been reported in Kordusia. A cult known as "Dorvik's Children of God", led by infamous zealot Ronald Adams, was found in their usual meeting place, with all 95 members dead."

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date20:12:21, November 19, 2010 CET
FromDorvikische Volkspartei
ToDebating the Emergency Secular Bill
Message
Mr. Speaker,

May I first express our sympathy for the families who tragicly lost loved ones in this unfortunate incident and our thoughts are with them.

Mr. Speaker, may I use such an unfortunate example such as this one to indicate how dangerous religion can be, and thus, propose this secularisation attempt in the interest of Dorvik and her people.

Date00:41:39, November 20, 2010 CET
From.
ToDebating the Emergency Secular Bill
MessageMr. Speaker,

We express our deepest sympathy to those close to the victims of this terrible tragedy. The actions of those who too part in this were deeply misguided and wrong. It is not clear whether any of those who took part had Christian allegiances, but if they did, their behaviour gravely violated Christian principles.

It is regrettable the GSP are exploiting this tragedy in order to push through their anti-Christian agenda. The restrictions they are proposing here are unwanted, unnecessary and unjustified. Nor would they have done anything to stop this incident taking place.

Date00:50:24, November 20, 2010 CET
FromDorvikische Volkspartei
ToDebating the Emergency Secular Bill
MessageMr. Speaker,

We are not exploiting, we are taking action, something the CPU didn't do in the previous administration.

In addition, we are not anti-Christian we are pro-Secular. These laws will have little effects, if any, on Christian peoples' lives.

Date01:10:49, November 20, 2010 CET
From.
ToDebating the Emergency Secular Bill
MessageMr. Speaker,

If the GSP thinks this Bill will have no effect upon Christians in Dorvik then they are living in a fantasy land. This Bill will mean:

- Our churches will lose a large amount of their income through taxation, even though they are community-centred and not profit-making organisations.

- Schools will be forbidden from including prayers in the school day.

- Churches will be forbidden from engaging in evangelical outreach work. Even for a church to publish a small leaflet to be given to those interested in our faith would be illegal under this legislation.

- We will not be able to invite prominent Christian figures from abroad to visit our country without having to jump through hurdles of Foreign Office bureaucracy.

Date01:14:49, November 20, 2010 CET
FromDorvikische Volkspartei
ToDebating the Emergency Secular Bill
MessageMr. Speaker,

We cannot possibly reply to comments that are intended to alarm the public over a matter that would benefit the nation.

Date01:38:10, November 20, 2010 CET
FromLormish National Congress
ToDebating the Emergency Secular Bill
MessageMr Speaker,

The LNC agrees some some minor reform regarding religious laws is certainly warrented but disagrees with the political opportunism that the GSP uses to pass legislation. It is certainly a tragedy that cults of this nature exist but far more effective legislation could have been passed to try and prevent this happening again in the future rather then this obvious ploy of passing a political inspired agenda.

Date01:46:37, November 20, 2010 CET
FromDorvikische Volkspartei
ToDebating the Emergency Secular Bill
MessageMr. Speaker,

This is not politically inspired agenda, its a step towards a fairer society. Whether the tragedy took place or not we were always going to propose this bill.

What we're proposing is the right to choose to live a religious or non-religious life. Currently, the law is promoting living a religious life.

Date01:55:42, November 20, 2010 CET
From.
ToDebating the Emergency Secular Bill
MessageMr. Speaker,

There is nothing in the current law which requires citizens to adopt either a religious or a non-religious outlook on the world. People are free to choose. By contrast, if this Bill passes, the religious activities of citizens will be severely curtailed. They will not, for example, be allowed to form organisations which produce literature the government deems to be "evangelising".

Date01:58:08, November 20, 2010 CET
FromDorvikische Volkspartei
ToDebating the Emergency Secular Bill
MessageMr. Speaker,

How can promoting prayer in state schools not be promoting a religious lifestyle?

Date02:04:50, November 20, 2010 CET
From.
ToDebating the Emergency Secular Bill
MessageMr. Speaker,

There is no reason non-believing children should not use prayer time as a time for private contemplation or meditation rather than worship. Nor is there any reason teachers should not allow pupils who feel strongly enough about the matter to step out of prayer time.

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Total Seats: 246

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