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Bill: Ratification of the United Countries
Details
Submitted by[?]: Totalitarian Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2142
Description[?]:
| This bill asks for the ratification of the United Countries[1]. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law. [1] http://82.238.75.178:8085/particracy/main/viewtreaty.php?treatyid=130 |
Proposals
Article 1
Ratify the United Countries.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:19:39, November 15, 2005 CET | From | Anarcho-Capitalist Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | As I am extremely suspicious of government to begin with, a government of governments does not strike me as something that is desirable. |
| Date | 01:33:49, November 15, 2005 CET | From | Kommunistische Arbeitspartei | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | I can assure you, this is not a super-government of any kind. It is merely an organization dedicated to international cooperation in humanitarian aid and peaceful resolution to war. We do not force member-states to obey our resolutions; we only make recommendations and joint agreements to bettwe living conditions for all Terrans. |
| Date | 01:36:09, November 15, 2005 CET | From | Kommunistische Arbeitspartei | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | *better living conditions, that is |
| Date | 06:59:48, November 15, 2005 CET | From |  Kanjoran Imperial Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | I am mounting a general campaign against this treaty. Why would you ever want to compromise your nation's sovereignty? Although the Treaty may say otherwise, by encouraging the rise of international law you will be tied to rules and regulations that you neither created nor necessarily support. You will be telling your own people, those who elected you, that they should follow the wishes of someone hundreds of miles away- in a different country. |
| Date | 07:49:02, November 15, 2005 CET | From | Totalitarian Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | I have proposed this treaty not because I support it, but because I feel discussing it would be better than dismissing it without thought. I have always been against such treaties for reasons stated by the Holy Council. I feel a foreign body should never have a say over the laws of our society, even if they are only giving recommendations Concerning the SLP's arguments: we currently supply no humanitarian aid, and will likely not supply any in the near future; and I cannot see this organisation doing much to bring about a peaceful resolution to war. We have been able to maintain good living conditions for the majority of our populace without interference from a third-party, and we are not concerned with the living conditions in foreign nations. |
| Date | 16:47:55, November 15, 2005 CET | From | United Soviet Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | This is a fine idea |
| Date | 17:05:32, November 15, 2005 CET | From | Anarcho-Capitalist Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | We fully agree with the sentiments of the Totalitarian Party. |
| Date | 20:00:39, November 15, 2005 CET | From | Kommunistische Arbeitspartei | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | The UC intends to promote peace and human rights by using international pressure to encourage change. Say, for instance, a nation is violating basic human rights, and most UC nations are opposed to its actions. We could mount a joint sanction or blockade, or even utilize military intervention if the situation warranted it. We can prevent the spread of conflicts through the use of joint peacekeeping forces. By allowing all member-nations to cooperate more easily, we can strenghten diplomatic and military power to encourage peace. |
| Date | 01:05:06, November 16, 2005 CET | From | Anarcho-Capitalist Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | Oh, so you are a international police force. I now would support a countermeasure, if necessary. |
| Date | 04:03:13, November 16, 2005 CET | From | Anarcho-Capitalist Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | This bill should be scrapped, the 148 votes of the ACF guarantees that Gaduridos will not ratify this bill. Our membership and participation within the Axis all but guarantees that we will be safeguarded from foreign intervention including any marauding action by this Union. While we may still be tied to honor our friendship with the axis (something I do not regret), at least they have the decency to afford us our sovereignty. |
| Date | 08:42:49, November 16, 2005 CET | From | National Fascisti | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | "Oh, so you are a international police force. I now would support a countermeasure, if necessary." What the deuce are you talking about? We already have a counter-measure: http://82.238.75.178:8085/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=30780 |
| Date | 16:16:50, November 16, 2005 CET | From | Kommunistische Arbeitspartei | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | "Oh, so you are a international police force. I now would support a countermeasure, if necessary." No, we are an international organization promoting peace. If people are slaughtering each other (like Rwanda, Darfur, etc.) we will encourage the parties involved to halt their actions. |
| Date | 16:34:00, November 16, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Party of Gaduridos | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | Forcibly if necessary? |
| Date | 16:49:59, November 16, 2005 CET | From | Anarcho-Capitalist Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | To the NF: I like the way you think. |
| Date | 23:17:46, November 16, 2005 CET | From | People's Progressive Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | After reading this treaty, we don't actually see any problems with it. If you'll notice the resolutions of the organization are non-binding, thus sovereignity takes precedence. |
| Date | 01:57:50, November 17, 2005 CET | From | Kommunistische Arbeitspartei | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | "Forcibly if necessary?" If the members are willing to do so, and there is no other viable way, we could feasibly use force. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 98 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 343 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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