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Bill: Ratification of the United Countries

Details

Submitted by[?]: Plinio's United Followers

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 2143

Description[?]:

This bill asks for the ratification of the <a href="viewtreaty.php?treatyid=130">United Countries</a>. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law.

This bill will be placed to vote after next election to give all parties a better chance.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date00:19:34, November 15, 2005 CET
FromPlinio's United Followers
ToDebating the Ratification of the United Countries
MessageI am not sure about this one. I do not support interventionist. But if the treaty does not violate sovereignity in any way, then I do not know what kind of power it can have.

Date01:38:49, November 15, 2005 CET
FromKommunistische Arbeitspartei
ToDebating the Ratification of the United Countries
MessageIt is merely a forum for better international communication and cooperation in the field of human rights and peace. We do not force resolutions on any members, but instead make recommendations and joint agreements for the betterment of life in Terra.

Date10:25:51, November 15, 2005 CET
FromProgressive Futurists - Saor!
ToDebating the Ratification of the United Countries
MessageNo, I don't agree with this at all.

Date18:41:57, November 15, 2005 CET
FromNational Thomasian Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the United Countries
MessageI think it's a great idea. compared to many nations we are not particularly involved in international affairs. I think this could help get us involved in the wider world and may gain us some influence abroad.

Date23:19:54, November 15, 2005 CET
FromLeft-Hand Path
ToDebating the Ratification of the United Countries
MessageThis forum will only be a place where the tyrants and despots of all the backwaters of the world can gather and complain about us. Let's not grace it with our sanction.

Date01:42:39, November 16, 2005 CET
FromProgressive Futurists - Saor!
ToDebating the Ratification of the United Countries
MessageActually thinking about it, this will not violate our sovreignty - we can support this.

Date04:08:49, November 16, 2005 CET
FromKanjoran Imperial Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the United Countries
MessageActually, think about what the treaty is saying. It is creating a place for international laws/standards to be created that will lessen your nation's sovereignty. If you sign this treaty, you will be compromising the freedom of your country to act on the will of it's own people and putting it into the will of people half way across the world.

Date16:18:15, November 16, 2005 CET
FromKommunistische Arbeitspartei
ToDebating the Ratification of the United Countries
Message"It is creating a place for international laws/standards to be created that will lessen your nation's sovereignty."

Not at all. The propoagandists of the Exarchs clearly haven't done much research. No laws will be created; it is merely intended to create harmony between Terran nations. No laws or regulations will be imposed upon members.

Date00:53:16, November 17, 2005 CET
FromProgressive Futurists - Saor!
ToDebating the Ratification of the United Countries
MessageIf members decide to come up with laws and standards through open and democratic debate that is fine anyway, the UC would have no way of enforcing them other than war and trade means that could be used anyway UC or no.

Date01:00:02, November 17, 2005 CET
FromFederalist Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the United Countries
MessageI say we give the group our support. We could always leave the union should it become overly hostile or oppressive.

Date01:29:33, November 17, 2005 CET
FromKanjoran Imperial Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the United Countries
MessageIt's not the immediate effects and responses that you make about the UC, it is that this organization will indirectly cause the rise of international law

Date01:59:08, November 17, 2005 CET
FromKommunistische Arbeitspartei
ToDebating the Ratification of the United Countries
MessageNo, it won't. It does not impose laws. Simple as that.

Date01:35:03, November 18, 2005 CET
FromPlinio's United Followers
ToDebating the Ratification of the United Countries
MessageI will vote yes. If we enter it, we can sabotage it enough that it will never have enough power to do anything ;).

Date02:39:30, November 18, 2005 CET
FromKanjoran Imperial Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the United Countries
Messageyes, that would be very helpful, thanks.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 148

no
   

Total Seats: 80

abstain
 

Total Seats: 0


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