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Bill: Ratification of the Deltarian Bill of Rights
Details
Submitted by[?]: Covenanters (IA)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2144
Description[?]:
| This bill asks for the ratification of the <a href="viewtreaty.php?treatyid=124">Deltarian Bill of Rights</a>. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ratify the Deltarian Bill of Rights.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:19:17, November 15, 2005 CET | From | Redneck Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Deltarian Bill of Rights |
| Message | And what exactly does this do? |
| Date | 00:41:02, November 16, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Deltarian Bill of Rights |
| Message | Bill of Rights? I'm very suspicious. I'd rather see a Bill of Obligations. |
| Date | 02:25:29, November 16, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Deltarian Bill of Rights |
| Message | I'm as suspicious of the Deltarian Bill of Rights as I am of the UCP's Bill of Obligations. Both go against the International Bill of Human RIghts. I will vote no. |
| Date | 02:56:13, November 16, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Deltarian Bill of Rights |
| Message | I saw absouletly no reason to even vote for this, so I'm going to vote no. |
| Date | 13:29:28, November 16, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Ratification of the Deltarian Bill of Rights |
| Message | Has the UCP actually read this treaty? |
| Date | 00:42:58, November 17, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Deltarian Bill of Rights |
| Message | If you haven't, it's a blank page. In other words, humans have no rights. |
| Date | 13:08:05, November 17, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Deltarian Bill of Rights |
| Message | I interpreted the fact that they mention that the bill of rights is "left blank intentionally" was an indication that they didn't want to get bogged down with problems with human rights if they wish to do something, and thus wish the "bill of rights" to be left open to change, as their needs dictate. ie, one day they might want to incorporate slavery, so while before that their BoR might include the right to freedom, they have the ability to remove that right retroactively. Sort of like the Bush administration's policy on torture. Or the Howard government's policy on truth and election promises. |
| Date | 17:59:41, November 17, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Ratification of the Deltarian Bill of Rights |
| Message | My interpretation was that in a truly free country subjects can do anything that isn't specifically against the law: unlike countries with bills of rights. |
| Date | 00:15:08, November 18, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Deltarian Bill of Rights |
| Message | I'll go for a Bill of Obligations. No rights without obligations. That makes sense. |
| Date | 14:01:52, November 18, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Deltarian Bill of Rights |
| Message | I like your interpretation DUP. |
| Date | 14:14:27, November 18, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Ratification of the Deltarian Bill of Rights |
| Message | Does that mean this could pass? |
| Date | 10:52:21, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Deltarian Bill of Rights |
| Message | No, but I like your interpretation. |
| Date | 04:13:33, November 21, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Deltarian Bill of Rights |
| Message | LEC: What an idiot. |
| Date | 10:41:31, November 21, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Deltarian Bill of Rights |
| Message | Coming from the expert. |
| Date | 23:14:39, November 21, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Deltarian Bill of Rights |
| Message | Yep. The expert in recognising stupidity when I see it. |
| Date | 08:10:28, November 22, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Deltarian Bill of Rights |
| Message | So you recognise stupidity, and then vote for it? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 330 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 420 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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