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Bill: Defence Policies
Details
Submitted by[?]: Party for Mars in 30 Seconds
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 3067
Description[?]:
| enhanced adjustments to the defences of our nation |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place and the military is not allowed to play any part in it.
Current: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:24:08, January 21, 2011 CET | From | rEvolution | To | Debating the Defence Policies |
| Message | Common sense. We support. |
| Date | 22:43:13, January 21, 2011 CET | From | Wings of Liberty | To | Debating the Defence Policies |
| Message | I do not think that there is any need for military involvement in the civilian police forces as stated in Article 1. It seems that it would place too much power within the military and allow for "emergencies" to become ways for them to gain power. As for the second Article, I do not think that anyone should be forced to join in the military. By providing for a civilian national service people have options. I would prefer to go farther in the other direction, but it serves as a fine alternative for the moment |
| Date | 22:48:37, January 21, 2011 CET | From | Party for Mars in 30 Seconds | To | Debating the Defence Policies |
| Message | i am sure the people would understand the draft in times of war. It would be far greater for the nation to have a larger military when we are at war then a smaller one. The draft would enhance the safety and security of our citizens. If they would truely complain the draft in times of war and stress in our nation then they care more about themselves than their own lands and fellow Aldegarians |
| Date | 22:50:21, January 21, 2011 CET | From | Wings of Liberty | To | Debating the Defence Policies |
| Message | While a draft in a time of war is not a bad thing, I am a pacifist for the most part and would not like to take any steps towards a militaristic state |
| Date | 22:52:48, January 21, 2011 CET | From | Party for Mars in 30 Seconds | To | Debating the Defence Policies |
| Message | Article 1 would protect our nation in the the most dire of situations. Granted that it could be used wrongly in the wrong hands, but then so could every other aspect of our government. I am not saying it is nessessary, it is just to help protect the citizens in situations to beyond/too dangerous for local police forces |
| Date | 22:53:44, January 21, 2011 CET | From | Wings of Liberty | To | Debating the Defence Policies |
| Message | I understand the position you are taking but it goes against my general ideological principles so I will most likely have to vote against the bill. |
| Date | 23:25:23, January 21, 2011 CET | From | Party for Mars in 30 Seconds | To | Debating the Defence Policies |
| Message | Article 1 would protect our nation in the the most dire of situations. Granted that it could be used wrongly in the wrong hands, but then so could every other aspect of our government. I am not saying it is nessessary, it is just to help protect the citizens in situations to beyond/too dangerous for local police forces |
| Date | 13:31:27, January 22, 2011 CET | From | rEvolution | To | Debating the Defence Policies |
| Message | A draft in times of war may be necessary to protect the liberty to not be drafted, ironically. |
| Date | 17:32:17, January 22, 2011 CET | From | Nemangha Humananghô | To | Debating the Defence Policies |
| Message | An unconditional separation of the military and police forces ignores the possibility of extreme civil emergencies. This bill is entirely legitimate, there is no reason the police cannot be helped if they really need it. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 95 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 104 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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