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Bill: The Scientific Freedom Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Art & Labour
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3068
Description[?]:
| A Bill to remove hinderances to the work of scientists. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The use of animals in cosmetics research.
Old value:: Animals may not be used for testing cosmetics products.
Current: Animals may not be used for testing cosmetics products.
Proposed: The use of animals to test cosmetic products is unregulated.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The research and development of pharmaceutical drugs.
Old value:: The government subsidizes research and development of prescription drugs and regulates their prices.
Current: The government does not subsidize research and development of prescription drugs but regulates their prices.
Proposed: The government subsidizes research and development of prescription drugs but does not regulate their prices.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards the cloning of human beings.
Old value:: Research in cloning technologies is legal, but regulated.
Current: Research in cloning technologies is legal, but regulated.
Proposed: Research in cloning technologies is not regulated.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The use of animals in medical research.
Old value:: Animals may not be used for any research.
Current: Animal research projects must apply for a license and submit to regulation.
Proposed: There are no restrictions on the use of animals for research.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:40:38, January 27, 2011 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the The Scientific Freedom Bill |
| Message | Yes, indeed. We will support. |
| Date | 22:01:55, January 27, 2011 CET | From | Dark Templar (LL) | To | Debating the The Scientific Freedom Bill |
| Message | no |
| Date | 13:36:01, January 28, 2011 CET | From | Ikradon Megacorporation | To | Debating the The Scientific Freedom Bill |
| Message | we will support this bill. |
| Date | 14:38:31, January 28, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the The Scientific Freedom Bill |
| Message | ..Or a bill for exploitation, chaos that will lead to unsafe drugs, and also to expensive but essential drugs for the people, and a massacre of animals. We vote no |
| Date | 19:13:19, January 28, 2011 CET | From | Art & Labour | To | Debating the The Scientific Freedom Bill |
| Message | USA, your argument about drug prices is totally unfounded. First of all, deregulating science means scientists dont have to waste time worrying about whether their methods are allowed and can just get on with it, making the whole process more efficient. And fundamentally you ignore the effect of competition on the market. If company x and company y both produce dihydrocodeine, the drug will do the same thing whether bought from company x or y. But because they are in competition the two companies will be engaged in a constant battle to push the price down. Nowhere in the process can they compromise on the drug itself or it wont be the same drug, thus the price will decrease at the expense of the companies themselves. If government owns the facilities to make drugs the price can only go up as there is no reason for the price to decrease. |
| Date | 22:55:07, January 28, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the The Scientific Freedom Bill |
| Message | In the hands of a true socialist government, the price would be low, or there wouldn't be a price at all (in a true socialist society). In the hands of the market, if demand is high, up goes the prices. A system where greed and profit are the driving factor, we see a huge possibility of a terrible outcome for the people of Ikradon. |
| Date | 06:46:15, January 29, 2011 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the The Scientific Freedom Bill |
| Message | I would mention here A&L that your scenario *only* works in the absence of copyright laws, which drug companies abuse.... So, your argument against USA is fallacious as you are currently also pushing through a copyright bill. Open the markets, down with copyright! No more corporate favoritism! |
| Date | 16:47:27, January 29, 2011 CET | From | Art & Labour | To | Debating the The Scientific Freedom Bill |
| Message | And in reality the copyright bill was never going to pass for whatever reason. It had minority support when it was proposed let alone now. Existing drugs couldn't have been subject to copyright or patent anyway, even if the bill did pass given the fact that the copyright was effectively in the hands of the state and unless the whole of the state's drug production apparatus was sold to a single company (which would have been a horrendously irresponsible way to do it). |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 282 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 228 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 240 |
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