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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of August 3071

Details

Submitted by[?]: Anarcho-Primitivist Concern

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 3073

Description[?]:

Proposing a Cabinet

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date09:55:16, February 05, 2011 CET
From Anarcho-Primitivist Concern
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 3071
MessageOne thing I don't want to hear in this bill is that the CFP and DT will deign to work with the USA. We need to do more than tolerate the USA as an enemy we are forced to work with sometimes, we need to embrace this as an opportunity.

The USA has been essential in fighting our corner on a whole range of issues when the capitalists have the majority. We disagree with them on a lot, sure. That's why they aren't in the LL. But there are also key similarities.

And to the USA, I very much hope you'll consider this deal, as it is made by a party who fundamentally respects your point of view and historical role. And because while neither the LL or IEL has a majority, the LL has more seats in congress and won the head of state election. Most Ikradonians have voted in favour of state run institutions, we shouldn't appoint a capitalist organisation to run institutions when they don't have a electoral majority to run them as they would wish.

Date10:52:58, February 05, 2011 CET
From SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL)
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 3071
MessageThe SCI supports this cabinet. I do not speak for the whole of the IEF, but I, personally, do not desire to work with the USA for a while after it so blatantly abandoned our last cabinet. We were perfectly willing to work with the USA in the cabinet despite having enough seats to have a Government alone, but they became too sensitive about the power structure and began spouting off anti-capitalist rants.

I sincerely hope what RMS said is true, that DT and CFP don't merely "deign" to work with the USA.... since that is how they have treated them in the past. I wish you gentlemen a good session in Government.

Date17:21:39, February 05, 2011 CET
From Art & Labour
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 3071
MessageIf the USA showed willing to work with IEF, then A&L would be willing to enter coalition with them. We do however respect that the decision is down to USA alone and we will accept whatever decision they feel is best for themselves and Ikradon as a whole.

Date00:27:22, February 07, 2011 CET
From Union Socialism Alliance
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 3071
MessageUSA under Hudson did have a controversial way of handling politics. However, rest assure, under Shawn Mason, USA is back to being the party it always was. However, we do understand the feelings of the IEF, and the reasoning of the RMS.

Considering everything, USA has decided to take part in this cabinet.

Date17:56:35, February 07, 2011 CET
From Dark Templar (LL)
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 3071
MessageHudsons controversial way of handling politics was probably the greatest thing to happen to the USA as they were starting to become a voice for the people and were no longer a slave to capitalists. The USA only joins this government because the Capitalists have also grown tired of the USAs deception and no longer wish to work with them. We will support this government but we will also keep a watchful eye of the USA.

Date18:30:09, February 07, 2011 CET
From Art & Labour
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 3071
Message^ Er, we're quite happy to work with USA. Your rhetoric, however, makes it seem that you're not.

Date15:21:03, February 08, 2011 CET
From Union Socialism Alliance
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 3071
MessageDark Templar's response makes us already doubt this coalition. We shall, as stated, still take part in this cabinet, but we shall not tolerate the DT if it keeps on with it's rhetoric, and shall not hesitate to take actions.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 396

no
   

Total Seats: 307

abstain
 

Total Seats: 47


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