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Bill: Council of Order : Indralan Nationals
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hutorian Conservative Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill proposes to change income taxes. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3083
Description[?]:
| The Hutorian House of Parliament issues this decree in the month of November 3082. Upon its passage the Hutorian Police will be given free reign to arrest all Indralan citizens, government officials and ambassadors. They will be tried in a secret court hearing on the charges of "Crimes against the Hutorian State". If found guilty the punishments are; - a lifetime of slavery. - a lifetime of solitary confinement in a Hutorian prison. - the death penalty by means of immediate execution by firing squad. |
Proposals
Article 1
We propose to alter income tax brackets to the following setup. Information about the current income tax system can be found here.
| Bracket | Tax | Estimated Revenue |
| > 20,000 HLR | 30% | 256,253,000,000 HLR |
| > 50,000 HLR | 50% | 174,110,000,000 HLR |
| > 90,000 HLR | 60% | 30,255,000,000 HLR | Total | 460,618,000,000 HLR |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:29:34, February 27, 2011 CET | From |  姬恩黨 (Jien Faction) 🌄 | To | Debating the Council of Order : Indralan Nationals |
| Message | This bill is outrageous. Killing government officials is an act of war. As of right now, all of them have been recalled by His Imperial Majesty. Any attempts to harm them will be met with harsh consequences. We have also gathered up all of our citizens that resided in Hutori just after the first Council in Order passed. |
| Date | 19:44:02, February 27, 2011 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Council of Order : Indralan Nationals |
| Message | Rt Hon Mervyn Peters MP, Prime Minister of Hutori and Leader of the Ruling Hutori National Party, Like yourselves we are the dictators in this sovereign territory of Hutori. We reserve the supreme right to do as we see fit in the interests of the Hutorian peoples. We consider this Bill to be a part of that. This is no more than the Hutorian people deserve - to see foreign conspirators eliminated from our nation! Indrala has now been undermining Hutori for decades and the HNP is putting an end to this once and for all. |
| Date | 19:50:02, February 27, 2011 CET | From | 姬恩黨 (Jien Faction) 🌄 | To | Debating the Council of Order : Indralan Nationals |
| Message | Dictators? We are no dictators. Our people have freedom, freedom that you won't even allow your people to dream about. You have no right to kill another nation's civilians, ever. It is not moral, nor is it honorable. Any attacks on Indralan transportation leaving Hutori will be considered an act of war. Do not test us. |
| Date | 22:14:37, February 27, 2011 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Council of Order : Indralan Nationals |
| Message | Freedom in Indrala? Perhaps i should state a few of these so called freedoms. 1. Government owned amenities are not segregated, private organisations are free to choose. - so segregation is legal 2. The national flag may not be desecrated or used for commercial purposes. - no freedom to burn a piece of cloth in Indrala. 3. Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital. - torture is legal in Indrala also. Some freedom.... |
| Date | 22:34:32, February 27, 2011 CET | From | 姬恩黨 (Jien Faction) 🌄 | To | Debating the Council of Order : Indralan Nationals |
| Message | 1. We have a strict non-interventionist policy concerning the economy, unless it concerns morality. While private organizations are free to choose whether to segregate or not, segregation is not endorsed by the government. Besides, barely any private organization segregates individuals. 2. The flag is the symbol of the nation, thus it should be respected in all ways. 3. Indeed it is, but only under grave circumstances. This is to ensure the safety of the greater populace of Indrala. You also failed to mention that Indrala has the freedom of speech, protest, assemble, religion, gun owning rights, education rights, and economic/property rights. Please tell us, do the Hutorian peoples have these rights? (OOC: So since the relative amount of Indralans in Hutori was a small number, I figure that it would be relatively easy for the Indralans to escape by Indralan means. Now, did you not allow them access to escape or did you? Also, if you did allow them access to escape, did you destroy their means of transportation?) |
| Date | 22:45:19, February 27, 2011 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Council of Order : Indralan Nationals |
| Message | OOC : well there was the first Order of Council (http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=312908). You said yourself that Indrala evacuated a large number then - and the Bill allowed you to do so peacefully. Since there are very little or none left it would take a while for the Hutorian Police to find any who would have remained. So you would be right in saying they all escaped as the borders are still open and there was a months warning. |
| Date | 22:49:21, February 27, 2011 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Council of Order : Indralan Nationals |
| Message | Rt Hon Mervyn Peters MP, Prime Minister of Hutori and Leader of the Ruling Hutori National Party, Currently in Hutori there is; - A free media - gun owning rights - economic rights - education rights - healthcare rights As for what the people do not have. Hutori believes the peoples lives will be better without things like the illusion of religion amongst other things. Plus all who abide by the law in Hutori have no reason to fear the Hutorian state. |
| Date | 23:03:03, February 27, 2011 CET | From | 姬恩黨 (Jien Faction) 🌄 | To | Debating the Council of Order : Indralan Nationals |
| Message | OOC: Alright, thanks. For anyone who commits a crime, the death penalty surely awaits them as it is applied in most cases. The police may do as they please. The police may torture whoever they desire. The police, regardless if the property owner desires it or not, patrols all private and public property (we do not dispute patrolling public property). Your own flag cannot be desecrated or used for commercial purposes. Slavery is legal. Private property rights are nearly non-existent. All things religious are banned. It sounds to us that the Hutorian state may do as it pleases. |
| Date | 01:08:23, February 28, 2011 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Council of Order : Indralan Nationals |
| Message | Indeed it can. But the state is not infringing the liberty of anyone who has done anything incorrect or improper. The idea of religion is a fallacy. Simply a method of controlling the poor by promising them an eternal and joyous afterlife in exchange for their obedience during their mortal lives. Innocent people who obey the law have no fear of the police coming anywhere near them. The same applys for torture and slavery. Private property will only be seized in certain circumstances i.e. criminals who are sentenced to death - the state will seize their property and sell it on to a law abiding citizen. The state does have free reign but only those who have done something wrong will feel the full force of the Hutori state. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |
| yes | Total Seats: 391 | |
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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