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Bill: Prisoner of war treatment part II
Details
Submitted by[?]: Libertarian Alcoholic Party II
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2144
Description[?]:
| Ok, here's where we actually change the law now that the treaty is gone. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the treatment of prisoners of war.
Old value:: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Current: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Proposed: Prisoners of war are treated according to the national laws of the captor power.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:22:38, November 20, 2005 CET | From |  Radical Freedom Party | To | Debating the Prisoner of war treatment part II |
| Message | so lower standards... |
| Date | 20:56:11, November 20, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Alcoholic Party II | To | Debating the Prisoner of war treatment part II |
| Message | No. Our laws prohibit capital punishment, torture, and just about every other bad thing we could do to them. It's the principle that matters here - the international community does not have the right to tell us what to do with our PoWs. After all, they were attacking and trying to kill us (The PoWs, not the international community). |
| Date | 21:56:12, November 20, 2005 CET | From |  RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Prisoner of war treatment part II |
| Message | Our laws prohibit that for criminals, not for PoWs. And the international community does have the right to set standards of treatment for PoWs, anyone who denies that is either stupid or ignorant. PoWs are just soldiers like our own Rutanian soldiers, they do not want to wage war, but they obey their superiors' orders. Who are we to blame them for something their Government is responsible for? By removing appliance by these international standards, you are giving our Government and military the right to abuse Prisoners of War. |
| Date | 23:17:26, November 20, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Prisoner of war treatment part II |
| Message | "so lower standards..." Actually, they could well be *higher* standards. All this says is that they will be determined by us, not that they will be higher or lower. |
| Date | 20:59:15, November 21, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Prisoner of war treatment part II |
| Message | "And the international community does have the right to set standards of treatment for PoWs, anyone who denies that is either stupid or ignorant." Rollseyes In other words, anyone who disagrees with Ganny is stupid or ignorant. "you are giving our Government and military the right to abuse Prisoners of War." Bullshit again from the RSDP. When will they stop making things up? They do it all the time As our laws forbid torture, they wont be tortured. As our laws forbid the death penalty, they wont get that. Jeez, stop talking shit |
| Date | 20:58:11, November 22, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Alcoholic Party II | To | Debating the Prisoner of war treatment part II |
| Message | CDP, why did you abstain? |
| Date | 14:07:15, November 24, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Prisoner of war treatment part II |
| Message | Try it again LAP |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 270 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 270 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 59 |
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