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Bill: Choice in Worship Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Deltarian Liberal Movement
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 3129
Description[?]:
It makes absolutely no sense for Deltarians to be forced into religious institutions, especially if they do not hold any personal belief in said religion (it would be a sham and a disgrace to both the individual and the religion). People should be free to make a choice in regards to religion and the government should not interfere in or influence that choice in any way. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: People are required to dress according to religious codes
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is an official state religion, and membership is mandatory.
Current: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Proposed: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 11:49:17, May 30, 2011 CET | From | Partija Kontr-Revoljucionerov | To | Debating the Choice in Worship Bill |
Message | This is a direct attack on our ancestral religion. Why does the government hate this country's history? |
Date | 11:59:47, May 30, 2011 CET | From | Deltarian Liberal Movement | To | Debating the Choice in Worship Bill |
Message | "It is more of an insult to any religion to force people to worship while they are not true believers. There are no winners in that situation - and it most certainly does not do respect or dignity to any men nor their gods. This proposal is in no way abolishing religion in Deltaria, but rather recognizing the freedom to choose what they worship and how they perform said worship. So in return, the Liberal Conservatives must ask, why does the Partijia Faction fear the liberty of their nationals?" - Chairman Jonathan Wies Liberal Conservative Party |
Date | 12:27:53, May 30, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Party | To | Debating the Choice in Worship Bill |
Message | The freedom of expression and religion is the foundation of democracy. Forcing small churches, which recognize other values, is not correct. But between the Churches must be respect and peace. - Sandra Oldrich Democratic Party |
Date | 12:32:47, May 30, 2011 CET | From | Partija Kontr-Revoljucionerov | To | Debating the Choice in Worship Bill |
Message | We fear the repression of eternal Deltaria. the Terran Unionists have done enough to destroy our identity, now the Liberals are going down the same route. Besides, there can only be one true religion. |
Date | 12:42:39, May 30, 2011 CET | From | Deltarian Liberal Movement | To | Debating the Choice in Worship Bill |
Message | "That may be so, there may be one true religion, there may be a dozen, and there may be none. We are not destroying Deltarian identity - we are merely making sure that whatever that identity is, it is not a falsehood brought on by the forced compliance of people by their government." - Chairman Jonathan Wies Liberal Conservative Party |
Date | 12:54:52, May 30, 2011 CET | From | Partija Kontr-Revoljucionerov | To | Debating the Choice in Worship Bill |
Message | No, there is one true faith. We do not wish to push people towards eternal damnation, and make maximum effort to encourage them to go the right way. If they choose the wrong faith that is there own fault, but to make it easier to go the wrong way is to do the Devils work for him. |
Date | 12:59:28, May 30, 2011 CET | From | Deltarian Liberal Movement | To | Debating the Choice in Worship Bill |
Message | "Simply choosing a faith because one is told is no way to achieve salvation of any form. It is only through a personal journey and true committal that one should be able to achieve such things - not just because they say a few fancy words. We have to give people the ability to make that journey so that what they feel and believe is real and applicable, no matter what it may entail." - Chairman Jonathan Wies Liberal Conservative Party |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||
yes | Total Seats: 102 | ||
no | Total Seats: 130 | ||
abstain |
Total Seats: 140 |
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