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Bill: Paramilitary Reform of 3132
Details
Submitted by[?]: Bürgerlichen Soziale Union
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3133
Description[?]:
| (OOC: I would be willing to "mess around" here in Dorvik if all players consent to it. A bit of RP and fun, if you will. However, it also would be fun to have your own little army. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the KPD has one according to the Dorvish wikia!) |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government's position on paramilitaries.
Old value:: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Current: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Proposed: Paramilitaries are allowed as part of each political party.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:54:34, June 07, 2011 CET | From | Volkspartei | To | Debating the Paramilitary Reform of 3132 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The Volkspartei is completely opposed to such uncivilized practice. This is undemocratic, and as such we - and I'm sure our Christian Party allies - will not support it. |
| Date | 13:55:48, June 07, 2011 CET | From | Bürgerlichen Soziale Union | To | Debating the Paramilitary Reform of 3132 |
| Message | Robert Seiler steps up to the stand to address the Volkskammer: "Mr. Speaker, We find it unfortunate that our colleagues from the Volkspartei have failed to see the reasoning in this bill. Around the world paramilitaries have done much good to countries by helping the failing government establish centralized control, and controlling citizens. Further than that, paramilitaries can be recognized as part of the military which in that case would only make Dorvik more power than it is. As such, we do not believe that paramilitaries are uncivilized or undemocratic. I care to remind you that Dorvik is not even democratic. Paramilitaries bring many benefits to a nation if used correctly by the political leadership in front of them. Thank you, Revolutionären Volkspartei Leader, Robert Seiler." Robert Seiler ends his speech and proceeds to sit down. |
| Date | 14:15:52, June 07, 2011 CET | From | Vereinigt Dorvik | To | Debating the Paramilitary Reform of 3132 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Vereinigt Dorvik is for allowing the formation of paramilitaries, but not for political purposes. We believe in the power of democracy to speak louder than any army and vehemently oppose this bill which threatens to sanction subservsive undercurrents. |
| Date | 23:22:51, June 07, 2011 CET | From | Hosian-Konservative Allianz | To | Debating the Paramilitary Reform of 3132 |
| Message | ((OOC: The KPD runs an illegal paramilitary to continue to support the third darnussian civil war after Dorvik pulled out of the war. That's about it lol.)) |
| Date | 23:35:07, June 07, 2011 CET | From | Bürgerlichen Soziale Union | To | Debating the Paramilitary Reform of 3132 |
| Message | (OOC: Alright. I'll go about and run my own illegal paramilitary if this does not pass then! Thanks!) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 463 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 37 |
| Random fact: Dorvik is a nation based on Germanic and old Prussian cultures, it is located on the far north of Artania, making it an almost arctic nation. |
| Random quote: "Man is by nature a political animal." - Aristotle |