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Bill: Union Strengthening Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Democratic Party (LL)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3143
Description[?]:
| Since the employer is often the government in Ikradon, requiring government approval to fire striking workers is not enough. It must be entirely banned, which is what this bill will do. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Employer's rights in regards to firing striking workers.
Old value:: Government approval is needed before strikers can be fired.
Current: Employers can fire workers who are deemed to have gone on strike without reasonable reasons.
Proposed: Employers cannot fire workers who have gone on strike.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:43:15, June 28, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Union Strengthening Bill |
| Message | That will possibly lead to anarchy, with any small group going on strike whenever they felt like it. |
| Date | 05:04:00, June 28, 2011 CET | From | Social Democratic Party (LL) | To | Debating the Union Strengthening Bill |
| Message | We see how the USA truly regards unions here. |
| Date | 14:59:28, June 28, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Union Strengthening Bill |
| Message | It has never been a secret that USA believes in reasonable limits to such right and freedoms. Save the mudslinging for when the LL kicks you out. |
| Date | 15:40:53, June 28, 2011 CET | From | Beloved Freedom | To | Debating the Union Strengthening Bill |
| Message | It will seriously hurts the management of businesses. We cannot support. |
| Date | 16:37:30, June 28, 2011 CET | From | Social Democratic Party (LL) | To | Debating the Union Strengthening Bill |
| Message | USA, we'll stop mudslinging you once you do the same with us. We understand BF opposing this bill, as it's against its libertarian and pro-business ideology (although in a strange twist, it is the government that is most likely to have its employees strike in Ikradon). We don't understand a "socialist" party opposing this bill. |
| Date | 17:10:54, June 28, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Union Strengthening Bill |
| Message | We are for a civil and united society. The workers are given rights and freedom, but should not abuse it. That will lead to anarchy and negative effects to our society, specially for the kids and the elderly. Also, we don't understand how a party wants this extreme, yet wants to restrict the important sectors' workers from striking, requiring them to implement "minimum service". |
| Date | 17:15:45, June 28, 2011 CET | From | Social Democratic Party (LL) | To | Debating the Union Strengthening Bill |
| Message | If hospital emergency room workers, firefighters, etc. don't provide a minimal service, PEOPLE DIE. The vast majority of strikes cannot lead to that consequence, and minimal service means minimal service, such as saving people's lives (but letting their house and belongings burn down). As far as other strikes, strikers are foregoing pay in order to try to get concessions from the other side. That is strong enough of a cost. |
| Date | 21:27:05, June 28, 2011 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Union Strengthening Bill |
| Message | We have an interesting dynamic in Ikradon, though. While we defend the right to strike, etc.... Ikradon's companies are run by the workers themselves. So, a strike would probably be a very rare occurrence, since the workers could democratically change the thing they might strike for. 50% or more to approve a strike..... 50% or more to democratically change their workplace. The second is much easier. DWCs prevent strikes. This bill is simply a formality. |
| Date | 22:46:54, June 28, 2011 CET | From | Social Democratic Party (LL) | To | Debating the Union Strengthening Bill |
| Message | Actually, it's more than a formality if only due to government workers. In the private sector, it may be pretty much a formality, though. |
| Date | 00:35:47, June 29, 2011 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Union Strengthening Bill |
| Message | The government is a DWC, in essence..... It is not really a group of shaowy elitists trying to screw over the workers.... That's not really how government works with how we have our laws currently set up. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 437 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 313 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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