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Bill: Traditional Values Act of 3158
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hutorian Conservative Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3159
Description[?]:
| Bill to re-establish traditional values in Hutori. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Current: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Proposed: Homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military actively seeks to remove homosexuals from it.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy toward marriage.
Old value:: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Current: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Proposed: The government only recognises civil marriages between a man and a woman.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on sexual relations.
Old value:: Homosexual relations are illegal, but are not prosecuted.
Current: Sexual relations of all types are legal for consenting adults.
Proposed: Heterosexual relationships only are legal for consenting adults.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:08:14, July 28, 2011 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Traditional Values Act of 3158 |
| Message | Rt Hon Duke Townsend MP, Hutorian Conservative Party Leader, Mr Speaker, i propose this Bill to remove the rampant immorality currently present within Hutorian culture. Mr Speaker, it is a firm HCP conservative belief that the purpose of life is simply procreation to ensure the human race does not die out. Last time i checked homosexuals cannot procreate therefore it is an un-natural practice. I believe we need to introduce legislation that backs up this view. Mr Speaker, the current government simply proposes ideas that are immoral. The legalisation of drugs, the glorification of homosexuality amongst others. I believe this is totally wrong and the HCP is right whenever we propose such a Bill. Hutori needs to re-discover its moral compass - starting with this Act! |
| Date | 15:18:06, July 28, 2011 CET | From |  Liberal Democrats | To | Debating the Traditional Values Act of 3158 |
| Message | Rt Hon Hector James MP, Prime Minister. Mr Speaker, I don't understand why the HCP leader constantly compares us to animals. Humans are not endangered, so why he talks of us dying out is beyond me. If we are to go with this conversation again, I will say what I did last time we had to talk about animals. Even animals have homosexual relations. Mr Speaker, a person cannot help who they love, and I really think it is completely unreasonable and I would say more immoral to enforce this ludicrous and medieval policy. |
| Date | 16:37:40, July 28, 2011 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Traditional Values Act of 3158 |
| Message | Rt Hon Duke Townsend MP, Hutorian Conservative Party Leader, Mr Speaker, whenever it boils down to it, essentially people are animals - the most advanced and dominant breed on Terra. Essentially the point of life is procreation and i know the Lib Dems think they are pushing some sort of equality and liberal agenda but in reality they are promoting immorality and the glorification of homosexuality. The state needs to provide a moral code for the people to adhere to and this government is pushing its deluded ideas on to the population. |
| Date | 16:49:12, July 28, 2011 CET | From | Liberal Democrats | To | Debating the Traditional Values Act of 3158 |
| Message | Rt Hon Hector James MP, Prime Minister. Mr Speaker, I am completely outraged. Why the HCP leader cannot get his head round this I don't know? this isn't about some policy agenda. This is about people. People's lives. How can he pressume to stand there and talk about gay people as if they are some sort of underclass? The state should allow people to make their own decisions, and their own moral code. What this really comes down to is the HCP obsession with telling people precisely how they should live their lives. This has nothing to do with the HCP, it isn't even a decision for an individual. It is a perfectly natural thing, and I do think we should celebrate our diversity. I will not stand by and allow you to persecute people based on sexuality, in my eyes this is as bad as racism or sexism. |
| Date | 17:11:53, July 28, 2011 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Traditional Values Act of 3158 |
| Message | Rt Hon Duke Townsend MP, Hutorian Conservative Party Leader, Mr Speaker, this is another popular liberalism myth. The idea that the individual is the most important thing. Unfortunately the Hutorian Conservatives take the Conservative view that society as a whole is the most important thing. Society will not function properly with such a promotion of immoral beliefs throughout it. Now - the HCP is a religious, traditional party and we advocate a strong family based society with the emphasis on the traditional way of life. Mr Speaker, in our parties eyes, yes, homosexuality is wrong. We are prepared to take action to remove them from our orderly Hutorian society for the advancement of our law abiding, traditional peoples. |
| Date | 17:23:28, July 28, 2011 CET | From | Liberal Democrats | To | Debating the Traditional Values Act of 3158 |
| Message | Rt Hon Hector James MP, Prime Minister. Mr Speaker, then I am obliged to say that I think that is a disgusting and hateful policy. I would rather have a million gay people in our society, than a million of his so called "traditional peoples" who must correlate to the worst sort of fascists. Mr Speaker, this is simply unacceptable. He again avoids the point that this is natural, and he will never be able to eradicate this, unless I take his statement about taking "action to remove them" to mean some sort of death camps? Utterly disgusting. Mr Speaker, I take my leave of this session, as I am so appalled by his statements. He may address me at another time. |
| Date | 17:30:03, July 28, 2011 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Traditional Values Act of 3158 |
| Message | Rt Hon Duke Townsend MP, Hutorian Conservative Party Leader, Mr Speaker, im quite amazed by the personal attacks i have to withstand in this House. Now the Prime Minister is calling me a would-be mass murderer? I have never stated anything so disgraceful. Now i demand a full apology by the person who apparently runs this country on a daily basis! Mr Speaker, also. We simply laugh at the way the Prime Minister hides behind his political correctness terminology. Unlike him, the HCP is prepared to deal with issues such as this and his leaving of this session just shows he lacks the backbone to compete with the real political elite of Hutori. The Hutorian Conservative Party will always stand up for our electorate and it would now seem the Liberal Democrats are abandoning theirs. Mr Speaker, what we say is like everything, time needs to pass for this problem to be removed. Through having traditional laws such as the proposed the number of homosexuals will gradually decrease as more and more people are influenced by their upbringing under traditional values. Eventually we will see homosexuality and immorality squeezed out of Hutorian society through legitimate and totally natural means. |
| Date | 17:38:59, July 28, 2011 CET | From | Liberal Democrats | To | Debating the Traditional Values Act of 3158 |
| Message | Rt Hon Frederick Black MP, Justice Minister. Mr Speaker, the Prime Minister will not be apologising for anything said today. I strongly think that what the HCP is proposing is in violation of human rights, and I will personally be looking into thos further. Mr Speaker, I think it is clear that this debate is over, dispite the HCP making ridiculous claims of their "elite status". Surely the very fact that the number of Libdem MPs is double the HCP's own number highlights what the people think of their policies. Mr Speaker, the Prime Minister will be releasing a statement on this later. |
| Date | 18:18:17, July 28, 2011 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Traditional Values Act of 3158 |
| Message | Rt Hon Duke Townsend MP, Hutorian Conservative Party Leader, Mr Speaker, there is no document of "rights" for Hutori. So i take it the Prime Minister will just be staying silent then? Well i suppose this is good news. At least we wont have to listen to his drivel for a while. Hutori is not signed up to any Bill of Rights so there is nothing this Bill can violate. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 154 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 70 | ||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 167 |
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