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Bill: Liberal Party Policy Statement II
Details
Submitted by[?]: Deltarian Liberal Movement
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 3164
Description[?]:
| A continuance of the Liberal Party policy statement documents, these are intended to establish our goals to the nation - without the intent to have these bills passed through the forum. We won't mind if they do get passed however. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Current: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Proposed: There is a public health care system, but private clinics are allowed.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Internet regulations.
Old value:: The government has no position on who may use or what is published on the internet.
Current: The government allows anyone to use the internet but the police can run investigations concerning illegal activities conducted by using internet (child abuse, illegal filesharing, ...)
Proposed: The government allows anyone to use the internet but the police can run investigations concerning illegal activities conducted by using internet (child abuse, illegal filesharing, ...)
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.
Old value:: There is no provision for a minimum wage.
Current: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a full time worker on it can support a family of four without falling under the poverty line.
Proposed: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Prison policy concerning prisoner labor.
Old value:: Able-bodied prisoners have to work during the day.
Current: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Proposed: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:27:44, August 09, 2011 CET | From | Deltarian True Christian Party | To | Debating the Liberal Party Policy Statement II |
| Message | "Again, a divided agenda. Perhaps the Liberals could consider actually putting similar legislation together, so that we don't have to try to cherry-pick which agenda items we like enough to support. If the Liberals want to compose a healthcare bill, compose a healthcare bill, and we'll support it or reject it on it's strengths." --- Malik-rabban of Ushalande Chairman of the Deltarian True Christian Party High Priest of the True Christian Ministry First Patron of the Council of Saints. |
| Date | 23:02:51, August 09, 2011 CET | From | Deltarian Left | To | Debating the Liberal Party Policy Statement II |
| Message | This isn't meant to pass, it's simply a statement of the Liberal Party's ideology on specific issues. |
| Date | 00:52:19, August 10, 2011 CET | From | Deltarian True Christian Party | To | Debating the Liberal Party Policy Statement II |
| Message | "If it's not meant to pass, there was no need to start the vote." --- Malik-rabban of Ushalande Chairman of the Deltarian True Christian Party High Priest of the True Christian Ministry First Patron of the Council of Saints. |
| Date | 10:38:32, August 10, 2011 CET | From | Thatcherite Alliance | To | Debating the Liberal Party Policy Statement II |
| Message | Brilliant, You have the support of the Thatcherites. |
| Date | 10:56:53, August 10, 2011 CET | From | Deltarian Liberal Movement | To | Debating the Liberal Party Policy Statement II |
| Message | "True Christians, this way of proceeding is the only one which gives the people a genuine insight into the party for their consideration. Not to mention that these Policy Statements have much higher chances of passing the Forum than many of your Scriptural Interpretations, as noted by the support given by the Free Traders and the Thatcherite Alliance - a support we at the Liberal Party appreciate. We have also been paying attention to the parts of our statements that have been supported and disowned by our fellow parties during their passage through the forum, and we will be reintroducing individual bills in due time based on these observations." - Mary J. Andowin Leader of the Liberal Party |
| Date | 16:09:57, August 10, 2011 CET | From | Deltarian True Christian Party | To | Debating the Liberal Party Policy Statement II |
| Message | "The fact that other parties may vote alongside the Liberals does nothing to impact the fact that the Liberals stated their agenda items are not even intended to pass. It's like whacking the balls around a pool table, and claiming that whatever happens was a 'trick shot'. The True Christians, on the other hand, are making consistent, logical, scriptural bills - and it is only the Godless agenda of the Forum that stops this Holy policy from becoming law. The difference, then, is that the Liberals set out to waste time and effort on the part of the Forum, when they could be discussing real and important law." --- Malik-rabban of Ushalande Chairman of the Deltarian True Christian Party High Priest of the True Christian Ministry First Patron of the Council of Saints. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 105 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 154 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 113 |
| Random fact: Moderation will not implement nation renaming requests where the proposed name does not comply with the requirements set out in the Nation Renaming Guide: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6364 |
| Random quote: "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard." - H. L. Mencken |