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Bill: Matthew 26:52
Details
Submitted by[?]: Deltarian True Christian Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 3166
Description[?]:
| "Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. " Biblical Truth is so often beautiful in it's simplicity. "They that take the sword shall perish with the sword" - an elegant, simple, self-evident truth. Jesus wants us to lay down the sword. Jesus wants us to love our enemies - not try to take vengeance out of HIS hands, and into our own." --- Malik-rabban of Ushalande Chairman of the Deltarian True Christian Party High Priest of the True Christian Ministry First Patron of the Council of Saints. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Proposed: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Civil defence is the government's policy on providing shelters to be used in the event of attacks on major cities, mainly nuclear attacks and bombing.
Old value:: Local authorities are responsible for building and maintaining shelters.
Current: Every public building is required to feature provisions for civil defence and at least 50% of spaces must be allocated to private citizens.
Proposed: The government makes no provision for civil defence.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Current: Defence industries are privately owned but subsidised by the state.
Proposed: Defence industries are banned.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Current: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Proposed: Homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military actively seeks to remove homosexuals from it.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Nation's policy with regards to an intelligence agency.
Old value:: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Current: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Proposed: The nation maintains no intelligence agency.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Discrimination in the military on grounds of race/religion.
Old value:: Any adult citizen can serve in the military, discrimination for racial or religious reasons is prohibited.
Current: Any adult citizen can serve in the military, discrimination for racial or religious reasons is prohibited.
Proposed: Candidates must be of a certain race/religion to be armed or take part in combat.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Government's position on paramilitaries.
Old value:: Paramilitaries are not officially acknowledged but are allowed to exist.
Current: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Proposed: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the treatment of prisoners of war.
Old value:: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Current: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Proposed: Surrendering enemy combatants are summarily executed.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the export of weapons to other nations.
Old value:: The government allows arms to be sold only to close allies.
Current: The government must approve all arms sales on a case by case basis.
Proposed: The government does not allow arms to be exported.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change Women in the military.
Old value:: Women serve alongside men.
Current: Women serve alongside men.
Proposed: Women have no place in the military.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:44:54, August 10, 2011 CET | From | Progressive Party | To | Debating the Matthew 26:52 |
| Message | "WOMEN have no place in the military? Homosexuals aren't tolerated?! You Malik-rabban of Ushalande have no place in the military. Get out of our country you intolerant fool!" -Amy D. Kingsley (P) Chairwoman of the Board |
| Date | 17:50:13, August 10, 2011 CET | From | Deltarian True Christian Party | To | Debating the Matthew 26:52 |
| Message | "I don't serve in the military, I serve politically. It's not a matter of 'tolerance'. We're very much in favour of women and homosexuals as people... in many ways, they are almost equals. They just shouldn't be serving in the military." --- Malik-rabban of Ushalande Chairman of the Deltarian True Christian Party High Priest of the True Christian Ministry First Patron of the Council of Saints. |
| Date | 01:11:08, August 11, 2011 CET | From | Social Anarchy Party | To | Debating the Matthew 26:52 |
| Message | Why shouldn't they be serving in the military |
| Date | 02:05:14, August 11, 2011 CET | From | Deltarian True Christian Party | To | Debating the Matthew 26:52 |
| Message | "A woman's job is to serve her husband, as a husband's job is to serve the Lord. Homosexuals, on the other hand, live an intrinsically immoral and morbid lifestyle. Not the sort of people we want in positions of trust." --- Malik-rabban of Ushalande Chairman of the Deltarian True Christian Party High Priest of the True Christian Ministry First Patron of the Council of Saints. |
| Date | 08:16:40, August 11, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Party | To | Debating the Matthew 26:52 |
| Message | We do not support this. DP |
| Date | 10:01:47, August 11, 2011 CET | From | Thatcherite Alliance | To | Debating the Matthew 26:52 |
| Message | No, no, no, no, no. I thought Christians were conservative, you're from the far left by the looks of things. |
| Date | 23:07:31, August 11, 2011 CET | From | Deltarian True Christian Party | To | Debating the Matthew 26:52 |
| Message | "We're not sure what the Thatcherite Alliance are talking about. Christianity isn't a 'left' or 'right' issue - it's about living a Christ-like life. Jesus believed that an authoritarian governement was a good thing, and divinely ordained - so the True Christian Party adheres to that. Jesus believed that we should sacrifice for our fellow man - so the True Christian Party adheres to that. Jesus said that those who live by the sword will die by the sword - so we adhere to that. Jesus said that we should give everything to help the less fortunate - so we adhere to that. You can talk about 'left' or 'right', but you're wasting your time. Was Jesus a communist? If he was... shouldn't we all be communists? Or are the terms meaningless in this debate? We are neither 'right' nor 'left'. We are wherever Jesus wants us." --- Malik-rabban of Ushalande Chairman of the Deltarian True Christian Party High Priest of the True Christian Ministry First Patron of the Council of Saints. |
| Date | 03:10:00, August 12, 2011 CET | From | Deltarian Left | To | Debating the Matthew 26:52 |
| Message | Articles 2, 4, 6, 7, 8 and 10 are violations of human rights. I hope you never have to seats to pass such disgusting and destructive legislation. |
| Date | 04:09:22, August 12, 2011 CET | From | Deltarian True Christian Party | To | Debating the Matthew 26:52 |
| Message | "We find the Gladii complaints somewhat hysterical. Maybe the Gladii are seeing the numbering slightly differently to us, or something - but we can't imagine any way in which (for example) not allowing people to make private unregulated armies... is a violation of human rights." --- Malik-rabban of Ushalande Chairman of the Deltarian True Christian Party High Priest of the True Christian Ministry First Patron of the Council of Saints. |
| Date | 05:16:44, August 12, 2011 CET | From | Deltarian Left | To | Debating the Matthew 26:52 |
| Message | I misread article 7, I thought it said the exact opposite (which made no sense in the context of the bill). I still can not support this legislation. |
| Date | 05:24:41, August 12, 2011 CET | From | Deltarian True Christian Party | To | Debating the Matthew 26:52 |
| Message | "Ah, thanks. We appreciate the input of the Gladii Party. As a matter of interest, are there elements you would be willing to support, if offered separately?" --- Malik-rabban of Ushalande Chairman of the Deltarian True Christian Party High Priest of the True Christian Ministry First Patron of the Council of Saints. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 129 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 243 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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