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Bill: Economic Changes of 3176
Details
Submitted by[?]: Federal Republic Progressionist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 3177
Description[?]:
| Made to help with the economy |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations.
Old value:: The government does not intervene in the market nor provide any form of subsidies/relief to industries.
Current: The government acts as an investor of last resort, by nationalizing failing industries that provide vital goods or services.
Proposed: The government subsidizes private enterprises that face bankruptcy.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:11:59, September 02, 2011 CET | From |  United Liberal Caucus | To | Debating the Economic Changes of 3176 |
| Message | This seems like a responsible bill to reduce the deficit, but as soon as the nation has climbed out of this fiscal sinkhole created after years of policies that weren't fiscally sound the LUC expects the essential goods tax lower to zero again. It's time for us as a nation to come together and fix these problems. -Mika Murran Chancellor of the Liberals United for Change |
| Date | 23:25:32, September 02, 2011 CET | From | Federal Republic Progressionist Party | To | Debating the Economic Changes of 3176 |
| Message | They will be lowered to zero when the time to raise taxes is no longered here. -James Robert |
| Date | 00:14:58, September 03, 2011 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Economic Changes of 3176 |
| Message | "The Unionists shall never agree to raise essential goods tax. We have successfully managed a budget for 150 years without needing to. Only population change & opposition governments have forced changes. The Unionist fiscal management system is an accurate one." Michael Bryan, Secretary of State for Finance |
| Date | 00:30:10, September 03, 2011 CET | From | United Liberal Caucus | To | Debating the Economic Changes of 3176 |
| Message | Well the budget is no longer in strong physical hands. This is an extremly tempory measure and with cut backs in other areas this nation can thrive. And the nation can do this together. But there must be a reasonable balance between cuts and tax increases. The FRPP thought this was sensible proposal considering the cut backs that have been proposed recently, and the LUC is inclined to agree. -Mika Murran Chancellor of the Liberals United for Change |
| Date | 04:07:31, September 03, 2011 CET | From | Federal Independent Party | To | Debating the Economic Changes of 3176 |
| Message | A tax levied on food and other staples of every day life is a tax specifically engineered to harm the working and middle classes. I cannot support such a move as it undermines those who are on the tightest of budgets. FIP Senator Lorenzo Cardeau |
| Date | 05:24:38, September 03, 2011 CET | From | Federal Republic Progressionist Party | To | Debating the Economic Changes of 3176 |
| Message | The unionist party hasn't been managing the budget, if you were then we wouldn't be 4.7 trillion SOL in debt. The changes are nothing more than minor and will be changed back when the debt is dealt with. -Sam Kennedy, FRPP finacial advisor. |
| Date | 15:25:16, September 03, 2011 CET | From | Federal Republic Progressionist Party | To | Debating the Economic Changes of 3176 |
| Message | The FRPP is willing to get rid of the 1st article but will not change or delete the 2nd. -Sam Kennedy, FRPP finacial advisor. |
| Date | 22:21:04, September 03, 2011 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Economic Changes of 3176 |
| Message | "It is an absolute disgrace to suggest that the Unionists have been anything but helpful in sorting the economic mess of this nation! EVERY budget we have ever passed has increased spending in Health & Education, DECREASED overall spending and taken the bottom % of our citizenry out of the tax system! We have SUGGESTED time and time again, budget changes to fix the defecit and they have been rejected by the SPP-dominated Senate. The FRRP should enjoy jumping on the political bandwagon and backstabbing the true guardians of this nation's economy because when the time comes they need support, the Unionists will not forget their treason." Edward Spicer, Senate Warden & Unionist Leader |
| Date | 00:40:23, September 04, 2011 CET | From | Federal Republic Progressionist Party | To | Debating the Economic Changes of 3176 |
| Message | There isn't anything wrong with this proposal. It will help enterprises that are going to go bankrupt. It will help keep people from losing jobs and having to live on the streets. Bankrupt enterprises will not help with the debt. -Sam Kennedy, FRPP financial advisor. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 179 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 192 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 54 |
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