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Bill: Public Tertiary Education Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Socialist People's Party (LL)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 3206
Description[?]:
| An act to ensure no discrepancies between the education of students by implementing a national university system. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The age until which students, if education were to be compulsary, are required to be educated (limited between 16 and 21).
Old value:: 18
Current: 18
Proposed: 20
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The regulation of higher education.
Old value:: The government allows private higher education but regulates it to meet nationally set standards.
Current: The government allows public and private higher education institutions to coexist with self-regulation for those that are private.
Proposed: The government does not allow private higher education institutions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:30:43, October 31, 2011 CET | From |  Socialist People's Party (LL) | To | Debating the Public Tertiary Education Act |
| Message | We are happy to split this bill if some support one proposal and not the other. We believe that to create equality in Ikradon, students must have at least two years of tertiary education (equivalent to a HND/Vocational qualification in the UK, and a community college degree, I think, in the US), as poorer children are far less likely to go on to tertiary education. As for ending private universities outside the public system, we want to bring them inside the public university system to ensure that all Ikradonians are ensured access to the same institutions, regardless of their ability to procure funds. |
| Date | 18:43:24, October 31, 2011 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Public Tertiary Education Act |
| Message | Since the age proposal does not have any influence on issue visibility, splitting these proposals would be pointless. As our (recent) history of rejecting large government goes, we cannot support this bill. |
| Date | 20:55:30, October 31, 2011 CET | From | Social Democratic Party (LL) | To | Debating the Public Tertiary Education Act |
| Message | We support neither proposal. We should offer free higher education to all Ikradonis who want it, but we should not compel them to accept the offer. Some people hate school enough they'd rather go straight to work after high school. We understand there are some reasonable arguments for prohibiting private tertiary education, as the wealthy can then buy better education for their children and we oppose private primary and secondary schools for that reason; but we want Ikradon to have its own Harvards and such, which come about through top private higher education institutions. |
| Date | 00:56:35, November 01, 2011 CET | From | Socialist People's Party (LL) | To | Debating the Public Tertiary Education Act |
| Message | Well we feel that it does not have to be academic education - as long as workers are in a training or apprenticeship programme with an employer, this should be classed as education. |
| Date | 05:27:31, November 01, 2011 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Public Tertiary Education Act |
| Message | I would just like to point out that the devs made a spelling error in their issue title: "The age until which students, if education were to be compulsary, are required to be educated (limited between 16 and 21)." compulsary ----> compulsOry |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 337 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 377 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 36 |
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