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Bill: Military Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Sozialistische Einheitspartei Dundorfs
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3210
Description[?]:
| These reforms are necesarry to make the position of the military clear. art 1. the military has no role to play in daily policework art 2. the state is the only institution which can use armed forces for the benefit of the nation and its people. . In a democracy like ours, there is no need nor place for paramilitary forces. Helmuth Gneissenfeldt Minister of defence |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: The military acts as a de-facto police force, with powers of arrest.
Current: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government's position on paramilitaries.
Old value:: Paramilitaries are allowed with full privileges, with the right to intervene when necessary.
Current: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Proposed: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:30:17, November 08, 2011 CET | From | Liberaldemokratische Partei | To | Debating the Military Act |
| Message | The socialists are once again trying to tackle the successful Law-and-Order-policies introduced by the conservative bloc. The socialists want to ban paramilitaries due to their fear of revolts as a result of their authoritarian, inhuman ruling style. - Luitpold von Tannenberg, LDP Spokesman for Defense |
| Date | 09:48:50, November 09, 2011 CET | From | Sozialistische Einheitspartei Dundorfs | To | Debating the Military Act |
| Message | I do not understand mr. Von Tannenberg's statement. To me, this bill is about national security and not about socialism or liberaldemocratic values. This Government believes that in a civil society the military should stay in the barracks and that paramilitary units (who serve political party intrests only) has no role to play in a democratic ruled state. In the BRD "battles are fought in the Bundestag" and not otherwise. Could the LDP clarify their position on not having a civil police force and alowing militia's of political parties ? Helmuth Gneissenfeldt Minister of defence |
| Date | 15:28:51, November 10, 2011 CET | From | Liberaldemokratische Partei | To | Debating the Military Act |
| Message | We believe in a cooperation between military and police forces in order to guarantee maximum striking power. And paramilitaries are now required more than ever before in order to counter authoritarian tendencies in the government if necessary. - Luitpold von Tannenberg, LDP Spokesman for Defense |
| Date | 08:39:30, November 11, 2011 CET | From | Sozialistische Einheitspartei Dundorfs | To | Debating the Military Act |
| Message | I'm trying to follow the reasoning of mr. Tannenberg. If I understand him well he's actually saying that he wants to give the current Government, which the LDP detest, more means to defend itself against the......"ehem" the LDP and KP ? Helmuth Gneissenfeldt Minister of defence |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 284 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 216 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Particracy has 464 player slots. |
| Random quote: "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." - Voltaire |