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Bill: Censure of the Right Reverend Ian James

Details

Submitted by[?]: United Civic Alliance

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: August 3211

Description[?]:

We the Imperial Democrats call upon Parliament to Censure the Right Reverend Ian James. The Leader of the Labour Party is not only fleeing the custody of the Hutorian Government, he is a traitor and a treacherous Republican.

Under the Treason Act any individual who calls for the overthrowing of the Hutorian Monarchy is committing high treason, and is thus punishable by law. A Republican does indeed fit this description. A Republican opposes the Monarchy and would gladly support its demise. By claiming himself to be a Republican, Ian James states that he does indeed support this cause.

By fleeing the Hutorian Intelligence Agency, Ian James has proved that he has something to hide. No normal individual who is a loyal citizen would flee the country because they fear being arrested. Our Intelligence Agency is not a secret police. It is there primarily to defend our nation against threats. It is not a political organization. If the HIA decided to pursue Mr. James; it would be because they deemed him a threat, not to the Political Government, but to the nation itself.

It is for these reasons that we call upon this august Institution to censure Mr. Ian James, bar him from political office and strip him of his Hutorian citizenship. We must show the world that we do not tolerate treason. Republicanism is treason.

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Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date22:51:31, November 09, 2011 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Censure of the Right Reverend Ian James
MessageActually Mr Speaker, you will find that I am here, and I have been here for a while. I was escorted back from Lourenne nearly a month ago! Otherwise, I am sorry, I made a rash decision to flee because I though I would be arrested imminently after finding a bug in my bedroom! For everything else...

LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE OF HUTORI! I have no regrets and no reason to hide! I am a republican, and under my leadership this party is republican! What will you do, censure the Labour Party? Do it! I dare you! Show the people that you are Imperial Oligarchs, HOW DARE YOU USE THE WORD DEMOCRACY IN YOUR NAME! My party stands behind me, the trade unions stand behind me and a massive number of Hutorians stand behind me! Do your worst!

Date23:06:10, November 09, 2011 CET
FromUnited Civic Alliance
ToDebating the Censure of the Right Reverend Ian James
MessageMr. Speaker,

So the traitor dares to show his face. You most certainly are not the representative of the common masses. We are the Imperial Democrats because we believe in the monarchy and democracy. You must be the Labour Party because you seek to exploit the laborers, the workers.

If you dare suggest revolution, you would be declared a traitor to the government and nation, and thus Parliament could decide your fate. Let us see your masses. Let us see what they will do when ordered by your socialistic militiamen to overthrow the august, Sovereign government of the people.

Mr. Speaker, I reiterate the call for the censure of Ian James. He is not fit to claim Hutorian citizenship, nor ever hold higher office. If the Labour Party stands behind you, then we will have no choice but to stand against you.

The Right Honorable Maria Köner, Leader of the Imperial Democrats, Former Prime Minister, LOYAL CITIZEN.

Date23:24:29, November 09, 2011 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Censure of the Right Reverend Ian James
MessageMr Speaker,

Obviously the woman opposite me is suffering from a mental illness because she is literally making things up. She says the Labour Party is seeking to exploit the Labourers when indeed it is WE that have been trying to sustain and enrich the welfare state for THEIR benefit when the opposite parties have been trying to destroy it!

Mr Speaker, not ONCE has revolution been mentioned, yet for some reason the woman opposite brings it up as if it is our policy. Does she know anything about this party? Let her read our creed and tenets and she will see that indeed we are staunchly opposed to revolution!

Moreover she speaks of militiamen! I ask her to speak to her beloved allies in the HCP about the HNP past and THEIR militiamen that killed thousands of religious believers in the past!

I was born a Hutor Hutorian, and I will die a Hutor Hutorian, and a party that has less of the mandate of the people than ours has NO right to say otherwise.

Much blood in the past has been spilled for freedom to ring in this land, and this woman has no right to take it away from this people.

I am a Loyal Citizen too, but not to any one person. I am a Loyal Citizen of Hutori, and I would die for her! So In the spirit of the Legends of this Party, like Georges Kesrouani, our Beloved Martyr the Right Reverend John Buchanan and the Honourable Rabbi Uzziel Yitzhak, all men who stood for this nation and the rights of her people to freely believe whatever they want, I declare that FREEDOM WILL REIGN in this land.

Not by revolution, force, war or any other thing, but by the triumph of the people and the installation of true democracy. I swear this by almighty God.

Date00:01:48, November 10, 2011 CET
FromUnited Civic Alliance
ToDebating the Censure of the Right Reverend Ian James
MessageMr. Speaker,

I believe that the "Honorable" Mr. Ian James must be suffering from short term memory loss, among other issues. I quote directly from him, "massive number of Hutorians stand behind me! DO YOUR WORST!" Is this not a blatant insinuation that a violent uprising would take place?

Somehow we must question the Labour Party. True, it may have received more seats than the Imperial Democrats, but yet who is the governing coalition of this nation? The HCP/ID Coalition. Not Labour. The people have entrusted the Conservatives with governing this nation, not a group of socialist hippies.

I am not calling for the removal of freedom from the people, merely from Traitors. You, Mr. Ian James, by all the laws of Hutori are a traitor. It is people like you who I despise. Much blood has indeed been spilled for this nation, but not for traitors - a fact I must remind you specifically of, Mr. James.

The Right Honorable Maria Köner, Leader of the Imperial Democrats, Former Prime Minister.

Date02:33:50, November 10, 2011 CET
FromDeltarian Liberal Movement
ToDebating the Censure of the Right Reverend Ian James
Message"Speaker of the Hutorian Legislature, and the honourable members of its Government and Loyal Opposition.

The Federal Republic of Deltaria has received an application from this nation's largest single party, the Labour Party, to assist in the resolution of this matter. As both a Deltarian, as well as a leading member of the Liberal Movement - I am a strong supporter of the Contest of Ideas, Freedom of Opinion, and the ability to challenge all aspects of society through democracy.

"The Foreign Office offers our services as an arbitrator in this matter, to find an end which allows these traits to have the room to exist in this fine nation. After all, as was pointed out by the Leader of the Imperial Democrats, the people of Hutori have selected a HCP/ID coalition majority. This does not mean that they should be restrained from exercising their individual sovereign will in any election in the future by selecting another party, whether it be from going from HCP to ID or vice versa, or to or from the Labour Party, or to or from any other party that may appear through time.

"If the people want it. They should get it. Currently, they do not - so unless the Labour Party becomes the majority of the legislature - then the republican status of the party should be protected by freedom of political opinion. It is only fair that you allow democracy to reign here, if only to validate your own opinions, and prove they are living truths in Hutori, and not simple dead dogmas.

"This is our stance. And we would appreciate the opportunity to help let that freedom live in Hutori as it does in the Federal Republic of Deltaria.

- Nicolas Wies
Foreign Minister
Federal Republic of Deltaria


Date04:01:28, November 10, 2011 CET
FromUnited Civic Alliance
ToDebating the Censure of the Right Reverend Ian James
MessageMr Wies;

While I do indeed thank you for offering to arbitrate, I feel that this is more of a domestic issue. The Labour Party should not be calling in support from other countries to defend itself against the just, sovereign and supreme laws of the land. The laws state that opposition to the monarchy - republicanism - is treason, and thus illegal.

Many of us have laws that we would like to have. But the fact of the matter is that if they are not laws, they are not protected. Republicanism is not protected, instead it is illegal. No matter what the Labour Party does, nor what Deltaria does, the Treason Act is indeed in place. This does declare Republicansim illegal. If the people vote in favor of Labour in 3213 then so be it, but until then the people will stand by the laws. The current laws declare Republicanism to be illegal. If Labour declares themselves to be Republican, then they are declaring themselves illegal.

We do not want foreign intervention to interfere with domestic politics. While I may strongly dislike the actions undertaken by Mr. James, this is not yet a civil war, nor will it ever be a civil war. We do not need "helpful" foreigners meddling in Hutorian politics.

This is after all the Most Excellent and Serene Kingdom of Hutori, not a Deltarian colony. We are not bound by your "dogmas".

The Right Honorable Maria Köner, Leader of the Imperial Democrats, Former Prime Minister.

Date10:24:43, November 11, 2011 CET
FromHutorian Conservative Party
ToDebating the Censure of the Right Reverend Ian James
MessageRt Hon Mark Owens MP, Hutorian Prime Minister,

Mr Speaker, i feel we must support this Bill - until the enquiry is conducted into Mr James' conduct. If he is proven innocent then obviously this will be repealed but until then we cannot have the spreading of illegal agenda across Hutori.

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