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Bill: Income tax proposal of May 3223
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Democratic Party (SDP)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill proposes to change income taxes. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 3224
Description[?]:
| The Hutorian Liberal Party propose to adjust the government's income tax policy to better address the economic situation of the Most Excellent and Serene Kingdom of Hutori. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Sales tax on essential goods such as food and non-luxury clothing.
Old value:: 0
Current: 0
Proposed: 5
Article 2
We propose to alter income tax brackets to the following setup. Information about the current income tax system can be found here.
| Bracket | Tax | Estimated Revenue |
| > 5,000 HLR | 7% | 39,745,000,000 HLR |
| > 15,000 HLR | 10% | 49,033,000,000 HLR |
| > 25,000 HLR | 15% | 95,330,000,000 HLR |
| > 50,000 HLR | 25% | 69,400,000,000 HLR |
| > 75,000 HLR | 32% | 32,821,000,000 HLR |
| > 100,000 HLR | 38% | 7,065,000,000 HLR | Total | 293,394,000,000 HLR |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:49:46, December 05, 2011 CET | From | Forward Hutori Party | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of May 3223 |
| Message | Rt Hon John Klugg MP, Foreign Secretary Mr Speaker, we are very concerned about the 5% on essential goods, as this will hit the very poorest in society, something I'm confident the Prime Minister will recognise |
| Date | 23:00:52, December 05, 2011 CET | From | Social Democratic Party (SDP) | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of May 3223 |
| Message | Rt Hon David Smith, Finance Minister, Mr. Speaker, while we respect the foreign secretary's critique, my department has also allocated for part of the funds from this sales tax will be directed at sales tax reimbursements for the poorest, minimizing, if not eliminating the burden on them. This will be done via a modest increase to the social services department, allowing cheques to be mailed out as quickly as possible following the sales tax introduction. |
| Date | 23:06:20, December 05, 2011 CET | From | United Civic Alliance | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of May 3223 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, If the Socialists had not increased spending, we would not need to raise taxes. Hutori had a balanced budget with a significant surplus and a booming economy before the Socialists came to power, and began to spend. Our nation does not need to raise revenue just so that we "can give it back". Just leave the money with the people. |
| Date | 23:12:57, December 05, 2011 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of May 3223 |
| Message | Rt Hon Duke Owens MP, Leader of the Opposition, Mr Speaker, these tax increases are simply....economic oppression of the Hutorian people. Hutori has had a long history of small state spending and low taxes. This Bill is only required because the state is acquiring businesses across the state and slowly taking over. If the government keeps doing this then the people will be crushed under tax burdens. Mr Speaker, i agree with the Imperial Union. Why increase taxation to give money back? Just let the people keep what they earn in the first place! This government has absolutely no idea to run an economic system and i know for a fact, that this Bill combined with the "Fair" Taxation Act - http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=333913 - will lead to businesses sacking employees to cover losses through taxes and/or relocating to other nations, again resulting in thousands of job losses. Mr Speaker, this economic policy is a total mess and the Finance Minister doesnt have a clue. |
| Date | 23:13:02, December 05, 2011 CET | From | Forward Hutori Party | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of May 3223 |
| Message | Rt Hon John Klugg MP, Foreign Secretary Mr Speaker, for many years under the last administration there was a 50 billion HLR deficit, Under this government, the budget has been in surplus, and clearly the scaremongering by the Conservative party that an increase in spending would increase the national debt was wrong. I am willing to support this bill in light of the help that my right honourable friend has promised to those on low incomes |
| Date | 23:26:07, December 05, 2011 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of May 3223 |
| Message | Rt Hon Duke Owens MP, Leader of the Opposition, Mr Speaker, we demand evidence to back up the FHP's statement. That statement being that we said increasing spending would increase the national debt. If the Foreign Secretary cannot find a reference then we demand an apology for lying to the House. |
| Date | 23:31:59, December 05, 2011 CET | From | Forward Hutori Party | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of May 3223 |
| Message | Rt Hon John Klugg MP, Foreign Secretary Mr Speaker, the leader of the opposition will find this election leaflet, used in Adelia during the election campaign by a pressure group that has provided financial backing to his party, stated "The Hutorian Conservative party has demonstrated it's control of our country's finances. The socialists will increase spending and invest money into your public services which they cannot afford, and put at risk our national debt." If the leader of the opposition wishes to distance himself from the group, I would like to invite him to do so now. |
| Date | 23:38:46, December 05, 2011 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of May 3223 |
| Message | OOC : Dont make up election material to suit your own ends.....not fair and it will mean everyone will do it in future. |
| Date | 23:41:01, December 05, 2011 CET | From | Forward Hutori Party | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of May 3223 |
| Message | OOC: sorry, but let's be honest, nothing the pressure group has said is anything you wouldn't agree with :P |
| Date | 23:43:13, December 05, 2011 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of May 3223 |
| Message | OOC : maybe so...but its a grey area. Point being that its fabricated.... Anyways for future reference proving it means a direct quote from a Parliamentary debate. So we will consider your last IC statement as retracted and you can try again....seeing as im feeling generous.... |
| Date | 23:49:46, December 05, 2011 CET | From | Forward Hutori Party | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of May 3223 |
| Message | OOC: If that's going to be the case, I'm not trawling through all of that just to quote you I shall simply refer to conservatives, as opposed to the Conservative party in the future. And before you say that's not fair play, I will refer you too your role-playing rants on how bad socialism is |
| Date | 23:54:13, December 05, 2011 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of May 3223 |
| Message | OOC : well thats fair enough....ill consider that as you cant find a quote to back it up. Feel free to use my "RP rants" - seeing as they are now actual events that have happened.....just so long as we all keep away from making stuff up to suit our own arguments. Its easy to do im sure....but lets try to be careful debates are heated enough as it is....which suits me fine! |
| Date | 23:56:52, December 05, 2011 CET | From | Forward Hutori Party | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of May 3223 |
| Message | OOC: It's also very unparliamentary language to accuse a Rt Hon gentleman of lying too :P you should be using Winston Churchill's nice quote |
| Date | 23:59:02, December 05, 2011 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of May 3223 |
| Message | OOC : Hmm well i didnt call you a liar straight off the bat. I said if you cannot find something to back up your claims then the statement with no proof becomes a lie.... Two totally different things.... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 202 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 189 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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