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Bill: Military Reform Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Citizen's Power
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2150
Description[?]:
| Creating sensible reforms for our military policy |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in warfare for any reason.
Current: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare.
Proposed: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:27:23, November 28, 2005 CET | From | Union for a Responsible Republic | To | Debating the Military Reform Act |
| Message | Article 1 is a no. Article 2 is a maybe. Article 3 is a no. |
| Date | 22:41:05, November 28, 2005 CET | From | Citizen's Power | To | Debating the Military Reform Act |
| Message | I can dump 3 but I feel that 1 is solid policy. Bio and chemical weapons should never be used in combat. They're unnecessarily harmful to the civilian population and they often get out of hand. For example, if we deployed smallpox on our enemies and it mutated into a form we couldn't combat, we'd be screwed. However if we kept these weapons solely for research purposes then we could develop the necessary countermeasures without the temptation to use them against an enemy. |
| Date | 00:26:33, November 29, 2005 CET | From | One Cildania Party | To | Debating the Military Reform Act |
| Message | I very much like Article 2 but I'm worried about Article 1. Sure, developing weapons is bad, but if we have no ability to strike backl we are a target. At least reserveing the right to develop weapons make us a safer nation. I know I'm sounding like a hypocrite, and in an ideal utopia every country would adopt Article 1, but this is not the case. If the defense-loving parties in our country are anything to go by, the whole of Terra is obsessed with the idea of needing a huge defence. I like Article 3, although I would prefer it to go furthre and be the old policy of looking at cases one-by-one. But in a militarist state like Cildania, this bill will not pass. |
| Date | 00:55:58, November 29, 2005 CET | From | Citizen's Power | To | Debating the Military Reform Act |
| Message | Article 1 reserves our right to develop countermeasures against these weapons and our nukes provide enough deterent to make chemical/biological weapons useless as a deterrent. Where's the downside? |
| Date | 04:58:53, November 29, 2005 CET | From | One Cildania Party | To | Debating the Military Reform Act |
| Message | It makes us vulnerable. Nukes are a big thing. To not have smaller weapons available (chemical/biological) rather than just one huge fuck-off A-bomb we are a more credible defence. I can't believe I'm saying this ... but we need weapons because I believe a Terra war is likely in the near future. |
| Date | 01:22:32, November 30, 2005 CET | From | Citizen's Power | To | Debating the Military Reform Act |
| Message | There are many sizes of nuke OCP, kinds that are so small that they affect only a .25 mile blast radius. Chemical and biological weapons are imprecise and can lead to outbreaks of pandemic dsiease. Obviously they're more danger than they're worth in offensive capability. |
| Date | 01:23:21, November 30, 2005 CET | From | Citizen's Power | To | Debating the Military Reform Act |
| Message | There are many sizes of nuke OCP, kinds that are so small that they affect only a .25 mile blast radius. Chemical and biological weapons are imprecise and can lead to outbreaks of pandemic dsiease. Obviously they're more danger than they're worth in offensive capability. |
| Date | 11:44:56, November 30, 2005 CET | From | One Cildania Party | To | Debating the Military Reform Act |
| Message | Whatever. This bill won't pass anyway, so I wouldn't waste my time trying to convince the other parties. You will not succeed. |
| Date | 17:55:59, December 02, 2005 CET | From | Citizen's Power | To | Debating the Military Reform Act |
| Message | fine, removed article 1, bring to a vote. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 151 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 182 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 92 |
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