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Bill: Religious Schools Act
Details
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2149
Description[?]:
| Because the people wanted it this way |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Any religion may set up a school, but they are strictly regulated.
Current: Religious schools are not allowed.
Proposed: Any religion may set up a school, with no regulations.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:39:17, November 30, 2005 CET | From | Green Moderate Party | To | Debating the Religious Schools Act |
| Message | You know, I would be in agreement with this bill, if we also changed "There is a free public education system alongside private schools" to "There is a free public education system and a small number of private schools, which are heavily regulated to ensure they teach adequate skills and information." I voted against changing the latter bill when it was last brought up, but upon reflection I think what you have proposed, combined with this other change, would result in a better situation. Private schools, both religious and secular, would be regulated to ensure good academics, but religious schools would not be regulated for religious, non-academic content. Is there a chance you could add that other proposal to this bill? |
| Date | 13:26:08, November 30, 2005 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the Religious Schools Act |
| Message | I don't think there is a chance. According to a poll in the Selucian Empire Daily, over half of the people want religious schools without regulations or something very similar with what I proposed. I hope all parties are wanting to listen to the will of the people (although SOME parties think SOME provinces aren't smart enough to express their opionion) |
| Date | 20:11:28, November 30, 2005 CET | From | Selucian Sovereignty Party | To | Debating the Religious Schools Act |
| Message | I don't operate on polls. I operate on principles. I think of the Children. Every child ought to have guaranteed access to an education that meets certain minimum standards. This also begs the question, what would happen if a poll was released that showed disdain for the Fascist Front's anti-gay rights stance? Would they suddenly become tolerant? I think not. |
| Date | 21:00:38, November 30, 2005 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the Religious Schools Act |
| Message | I think a governement is there for the people, and I think if a serious majority is pro. I thought you were PRO democracy? Democracy means: if a majority of the people is PRO, it is passed. I hope the voters and the parties will remember what you think about democracy |
| Date | 21:18:34, November 30, 2005 CET | From | Selucian Sovereignty Party | To | Debating the Religious Schools Act |
| Message | Representative Democracy means one person, one vote, representation by population. Sort of like the electoral system that is currently in place, but that you consistently oppose. On election day, the people spoke, and handed the current coalition a majority, based on our respective views. We are using the results of that vote to enforce the will of the people as expressed on election day. Given that public opinion polls are non-binding and can be skewed depending on how the questions are posed, we pay no attention to them. If you are a believer of Participatory Democracy as you suggest , then you believe that all decisions should be made by referendum or plebiscite, which would no longer necessitate elections, parties, or leaders. If you truly believe in that system, I invite you to take a poll on every subject, and introduce bills based solely on what the people think, in all cases, and to work to make the participatory democracy option possible in our constitution. I will oppose it. If you succeed, a nice consolation prize would be the dismantling of your party. Further, your selective use of polls tells me that you are being (yet again) deceptive and disengenuous, and would suggest to you that the vast majority of your bills and ideas are not supported by a positive poll result of the electorate. |
| Date | 22:08:12, November 30, 2005 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the Religious Schools Act |
| Message | I don't say this often, but you are absolutely right about your 3th point. However, I think this is indeed impossible to realise, in theory it is indeed perfect. @4: how do you mean, my selective use of polls? Could you please give me an example? There are things where no polls exist, so I'm not feeling bad if I propose something about that. |
| Date | 03:23:49, December 01, 2005 CET | From | Selucian Sovereignty Party | To | Debating the Religious Schools Act |
| Message | You can create your own polls in your party's main page. You have no excuse to not use polls for every issue out there. |
| Date | 09:33:16, December 01, 2005 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the Religious Schools Act |
| Message | Yeah, like the VBS party has enough money to do that |
| Date | 18:48:28, December 01, 2005 CET | From | Selucian Sovereignty Party | To | Debating the Religious Schools Act |
| Message | You're older than I am. I have $309,750 or so to spend, at $1000 a poll. Logic would dictate that you have even more money than I, as your part is older, and has accumulated poll spending money for an even longer period of time. By my calculations, you should easily have the ability to buy 320 polls right now. That's more than enough money. |
| Date | 19:03:24, December 01, 2005 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the Religious Schools Act |
| Message | I have 20 000 SEN, a poll costs 1000 SEN, so I can do 20 more polls. With elections in 1 month, I'm not going to use all my money now, I want to analyse the election too |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 199 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 298 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 78 |
| Random fact: By default the head of government is the ultimate authority within a national government. In general terms, heads of government are expected to consult with cabinet colleagues (including those from other parties) before making significant decisions but they remain responsible for government action. |
| Random quote: "In Germany they first came for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me--and by that time no one was left to speak up." - Pastor Martin Niemoller |