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Bill: Decreasing debt
Details
Submitted by[?]: Redneck Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2149
Description[?]:
| We have had proposals lately that on the surface want to decrease debt. This bill will actually do just that. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Current: Child benefit policies are left to local governments.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Radio stations.
Old value:: The government subsidises a national radio station for educational and informational purposes; other private non-subsidised radio stations are allowed.
Current: All radio stations are private.
Proposed: All radio stations are private.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Television stations.
Old value:: The government subsidises a national TV station for educational and informational purposes; other private non-subsidised TV stations are allowed.
Current: All television media are private.
Proposed: All television media are private.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards giving aid to foreign countries.
Old value:: The government gives high levels of aid to countries in need.
Current: The government gives high levels of aid to countries in need.
Proposed: The government supplies "tied" aid to poorer nations in return for trading rights.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certain period of time.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certain period of time.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: There is a compulsory private pension system.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Education in prisons.
Old value:: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Current: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Proposed: Prisoners are not given any form of education.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Prison policy concerning prisoner labor.
Old value:: Prisoners are interned and do not work in prisons.
Current: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Proposed: Able-bodied prisoners have to work during the day.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change Government-sponsored recycling programs.
Old value:: The government funds recycling facilities but enforces mandatory recycling for industry only.
Current: There is no national policy regarding recycled garbage.
Proposed: There is no national policy regarding recycled garbage.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:57:55, November 30, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | That's not how you propose a budget or tax bill. You have to go to the cabinet then cabinet abilities. |
| Date | 18:02:08, November 30, 2005 CET | From | Redneck Party | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | That isn't the point at the moment. We will propose laws that cut the governments wasteful spending. In turn, we will see who among us is serious about decreasing debt. |
| Date | 18:16:12, November 30, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | This doesn't decrease debt at all, are you really that stupid? ONLY A BUDGET OR TAX PROPOSAL WILL DECREASE DEBT! |
| Date | 18:27:45, November 30, 2005 CET | From | Redneck Party | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | No, not only. Currently, we spend money on these wasteful and unneeded laws. The money we put in the budget has to come from somewhere. And since we currently have massive debt, we must cut the spending before we adjust the budget, or raise taxes. Debts do not magically disappear without said cuts. Raising taxes and changing the budget alone will only allow us to not fall further in debt. We're after total elimination. |
| Date | 20:59:08, November 30, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | I must ask you to reconsider article 2. |
| Date | 21:49:07, November 30, 2005 CET | From | Redneck Party | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | Might I ask why? |
| Date | 22:06:38, November 30, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | State farms? We'll ask Joe Stalin to them shall we? |
| Date | 22:27:42, November 30, 2005 CET | From | Redneck Party | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | Changed |
| Date | 23:01:25, November 30, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | We'd prefer ecological subsidies (the current policy) or no subsidies at all. This proposal rewards failure. |
| Date | 23:05:44, November 30, 2005 CET | From | Redneck Party | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | Totally removed then.. The RNP thought about that issue, and came to the conclusion that total removel may hurt us in an election, as we allow only landowners the right to vote. And we believe the greatest deal of landowners hard working farmers.. |
| Date | 23:36:01, November 30, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | Thanks for listening, you have our votes. SRP is getting very personal: just like NFP did towards the end. |
| Date | 01:19:47, December 01, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | We're not happy with the last three, but I agree with the rest. |
| Date | 02:32:49, December 01, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | Thanks for the changes. YES. |
| Date | 05:21:58, December 01, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | This does not actually decrease debt, it only shows your contempt for the people of Luthori. |
| Date | 05:23:38, December 01, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | Anyone who votes yes for this bill is economically and politically ignorant. |
| Date | 08:52:29, December 01, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | This will save billions of pounds: where's the contempt for the Luthori people? |
| Date | 10:10:10, December 01, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | This will save billions of pounds at the expense of the poor and low-income Luthori citizens by taking away necessary services. Therefore contempt. |
| Date | 10:49:12, December 01, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | What necessary services does this remove from the poor? Commercial-free TV and radio? |
| Date | 12:23:20, December 01, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | Articles Four, Five, Seven and Eight. |
| Date | 13:22:47, December 01, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Decreasing debt |
| Message | Articles 4, 7 and 8 have nothing to do with Luthori Citizens. Article 5 simply prevents freeloaders from living off the state indefinitely. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 441 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 84 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 114 |
| Random fact: Real-life places should not be referenced in Particracy. |
| Random quote: "Hunger is not the worst feature of unemployment; idleness is." - William E. Barrett |