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Bill: Gambling Review Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Solentian Socialist Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: October 2151

Description[?]:

This bill would change our gambling laws, so that "only small-scale gambling is allowed, involving limited amounts of money; casinos are illegal." This will eliminate the culture of exploitation by private gambling establishments, while still allowing Solentian citizens the freedom to gamble with their money on a private recreational basis. Parliament also serves notice of its desire for a seventh option, allowing for the construction of government owned and operated casinos.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date18:19:07, December 01, 2005 CET
From Solentian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Gambling Review Act
MessageThe SSP believes gambling should be outlawed. It is a highly addictive pursuit, which destroys families and hurts functioning members of society. We believe it is wrong that casinos and private enterprises should be allowed to profit on the misfortune of others, especially when considering that gambling operations are build so as to stack the odds against the individual in favour of the house. There seems to us no conceivable benefit to the public from the continued existence of a legal gambling industry.

Date06:16:09, December 02, 2005 CET
From Communist Fascist And Anarchial Party
ToDebating the Gambling Review Act
MessageWe believe that gambling should be limited to publically owned casino's only, where the profit goes back into the annual budget, and will go back to the people in the form of welfare.

Date16:06:22, December 02, 2005 CET
From Solentian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Gambling Review Act
MessageThe SSP could tolerate that. But do you not think the income we received from such a venture would be outweighed by the misery gambling inflicts on families and, indeed, communities as well?

Date03:21:08, December 03, 2005 CET
From Communist Fascist And Anarchial Party
ToDebating the Gambling Review Act
Messageperhaps, but the money is going back to help those people and others..

Date07:22:48, December 03, 2005 CET
From United Centrists
ToDebating the Gambling Review Act
MessageWhile the detrimental aspects of gambling are undeniable, we still support the current policy limiting it to licensed casinos and private homes. Making gambling completely illegal could also increase the amount of illegal gambling going on (similar to what is feared would happen if alcohol or smoking were illegalized). Though there are obviously problem gamblers, there are also smart ones who would likely be angered by gambling's illegalization.

At the very least, we firmly wish gambling to remain legal at least in private homes. Gambling in one's home tends to be far less destructive than gambling in large-scale establishments, and would ensure that citizens are not breaking the law if they decide to up the stakes in a friendly game of poker with their friends.

(OOC: on a slightly related note, I'm begining to wish there was an option to make casinos legal if they are government-own as a possible way to lower corruption. That or a way to specify just how many casinos are allowed to exist within a single region.)

Date21:51:39, December 04, 2005 CET
From Solentian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Gambling Review Act
Message(OOC: That's a very good idea - perhaps the game creators would be open to suggestions?)

Would anyone consider supporting a change to the following proposal: "Only small-scale gambling is allowed, involving limited amounts of money; casinos are illegal"? The SSP doesn't like the idea of private casinos profiting from people's misfortune (that's another point: how would the money go back into society - licensed casinos aren't publicly owned, are they?).

That said, we have no problem with small-scale gambling, especially as it would avoid a "black market" of sorts growing up after a total ban. - What do people think?

Date00:25:25, December 05, 2005 CET
From Communist Fascist And Anarchial Party
ToDebating the Gambling Review Act
Messagei will support.. however there will be a black market, during this stage where people gamble over the monetary limit.... and this will continue when and if gambling is banned as well......

Date01:10:55, December 05, 2005 CET
From Solentian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Gambling Review Act
MessageProbably, yes. Law enforcement isn't total. That said, we will stamp out the mainstream exploitation of people by large private casinos, which the SSP feels is a much greater problem.

Thank you for your decision.

Date02:15:51, December 05, 2005 CET
From United Centrists
ToDebating the Gambling Review Act
MessageUntil better casino-oriented options are implemented, we can support the proposal for only allowing small-scale gambling.

Date02:20:48, December 05, 2005 CET
From Solentian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Gambling Review Act
MessageYes, the SSP would also support publicly owned casinos as a viable alternative to private establishments, if/when such an alternative is made available to the Solentian Parliament.

Date14:31:26, December 05, 2005 CET
From Solentian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Gambling Review Act
MessageThis bill would change our gambling laws, so that "only small-scale gambling is allowed, involving limited amounts of money; casinos are illegal." This will eliminate the culture of exploitation by private gambling establishments, while still allowing Solentian citizens the freedom to gamble their money recreationally.

Parliament also serves notice of its desire for a seventh option, allowing for the construction of government owned and operated casinos.

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THIS IS A DISCUSSION ON GAMBLING LAWS.

At the present time, "gambling is legal, but only in private homes and casinos with special licences."

What do our fellow Solentians have to say regarding our current gambling laws?

Date14:33:42, December 05, 2005 CET
From Solentian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Gambling Review Act
Message(Just copied that for the records.)

Moving to a vote.

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Voting

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Total Seats: 384

no

    Total Seats: 0

    abstain
       

    Total Seats: 295


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