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Bill: Energy and Infrastructure
Details
Submitted by[?]: Socio-Democratic Union
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2150
Description[?]:
| That bill is designed to provide to the Dolgarian Government a stronger "power" over national infrastructure, what could be capital in time of war, and to reduce our dependance on private compagnies. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Eminent Domain.
Old value:: The government may not seize private property.
Current: The policy regarding eminent domain is left to local governments.
Proposed: The government may seize private property for vital government works.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on the nation's power grid.
Old value:: Multiple private companies each own and maintain sections of the national power grid.
Current: Multiple private companies each own and maintain sections of the national power grid.
Proposed: The national grid is fully owned by the state.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government policy regarding housing.
Old value:: All housing is privately-owned.
Current: All housing is privately-owned.
Proposed: The state provides public housing to low-income families.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:59:08, December 03, 2005 CET | From |  Movement for White Supremacy | To | Debating the Energy and Infrastructure |
| Message | ummm.... I dont think I like this one very much at all... sorry |
| Date | 04:02:47, December 03, 2005 CET | From | United Dolgaria Party | To | Debating the Energy and Infrastructure |
| Message | LPP, how can you want such people in your cabinet? This is totally communist, and I mean communist, that is, the real meaning. Exactly like the USSR: - Government can and does seize private property - Government owns industry and businesses that are vital to economic progress. - Government owns housing and hands it out to people. Next they'll propose that the HoS should be called "Head of the Communist Party" and nationalize all industries. Excellent, from a barely acceptable centro-socialist party, you became a socio-communist party. Next thing you know, people like Sam Walton and Bill Gates will be executed and their property will be "shared among the people". If I were the main moderator of this game, I would demand that you be honest and rename your party to "Fully Communist and Soviet Party of Dolgaria Who Believes That The USSR Was The Best Country In The World". Anyway, this is absurd and has got to stop! I call for all sane people in our most noble Dolgaria to help stop this outrage! |
| Date | 20:10:36, December 03, 2005 CET | From | Socio-Democratic Union | To | Debating the Energy and Infrastructure |
| Message | You know what CPD ? What I proposed is, for example, an exact copy of the current French system where the State can seize properties for works such as highways (owner will get some funds for their lost ownings), The state compagny owns the Grid and maintain it in a very good shape, and some houses are owned by the State are rented to low-income people. And is France communist ? I don't think so. I'm not turning to communism in any matter. I'm just trying to implement legislations that will ensure State's power in critical areas of the economy and help the Poorest. There is no need in executing anyone or whatever you said. |
| Date | 01:18:43, December 04, 2005 CET | From | United Dolgaria Party | To | Debating the Energy and Infrastructure |
| Message | Well, if you think that France is in such a wonderful state, you should certainly read the news more often. France's unemployment is soaring, housing policies are in a disastrous state, and the country will be on the brink of a civil/social war in another 10 years if major steps are not taken. |
| Date | 03:43:54, December 04, 2005 CET | From | Socio-Democratic Union | To | Debating the Energy and Infrastructure |
| Message | France has its problems, indeed. But these problems are common to most european states and media, at least anglo-saxon ones, exaggerated the impact of lastest riots. |
| Date | 19:19:42, December 04, 2005 CET | From | Liberty and Prosperity Party | To | Debating the Energy and Infrastructure |
| Message | Well, to be fair, all of this is also in the United States. Kinda. The US Grid is owned by the state, and each region has a state-run (but publically owned, as in it has stock shares which the public buys) electric company which has a monopoly on that region. That seems rather effective. Each state in the US has some sort of poverty housing scheme. No where near that of France's, usually the state secures low-income housing though a private citizen or company. A couple states do build apartments for low-income, like France. And, well, the United States invented the term "eminent domain." |
| Date | 08:50:12, December 05, 2005 CET | From | Movement for White Supremacy | To | Debating the Energy and Infrastructure |
| Message | thats why america has its problems |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 451 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 299 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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