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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of June 3310
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 3311
Description[?]:
| Due to the unwillingness of the other two parties to continue to work together towards a return to tradition, we shall take this task on our own. Davit Tsulukidze Chairman HNF |
Proposals
Article 1
As per the Constitution, the Hobratsis Respublikis Prezidenti (President of the Hobrazian Republic) chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the 
Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:14:24, May 28, 2012 CET | From | Akhali Partia | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3310 |
| Message | There is no return to tradition, when Hobrazia has always been founded upon the principles of democracy and liberty and you suggest the exact opposite. |
| Date | 00:17:48, May 28, 2012 CET | From | Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3310 |
| Message | We have at no point suggested the abolition of our democracy. We do, however, want an end to all destructive foreign influences, and will work to implement a culturally pure Hobrazian nation. |
| Date | 00:23:06, May 28, 2012 CET | From | Akhali Partia | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3310 |
| Message | Culturally pure is, and will always be, an euphemism for social tyranny, where freedom to live,dress and behave as one wants, and which does no harm to others, is suspended. We support a strong state, which has no problem in allowing it's citizens to live as they think best. |
| Date | 00:32:55, May 28, 2012 CET | From | Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3310 |
| Message | Freedom to live,dress and behave as one wants is, on the other hand, an euphemism for multiculturalism and denationalization. Hobrazia will cease to exist as a nation if all sorts of un-Hobrazian behaviours are tolerated. |
| Date | 00:38:47, May 28, 2012 CET | From | Akhali Partia | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3310 |
| Message | Why should we oppress though? If it is truly the wish of the people to live in a Hobrazian way of life, they will choose to do so, if not, what is the point of forcing a way of life upon someone that does not want to live that way? |
| Date | 00:43:49, May 28, 2012 CET | From | Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3310 |
| Message | Then they are free to leave the nation. Hobrazia is for Hobrazians, anyone that wishes to adopt another way of life can do that someplace else. |
| Date | 00:43:59, May 28, 2012 CET | From | Hobratsuri Komunisturi Partiis | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3310 |
| Message | What is Hobrazian is defined by the currently living Hobrazians. It is their will, and their will alone, that should influence it. The state have no business prying into what goes on in the personal life of the Hobrazian people, nor should conformity be forced unto those who do not wish it. It is clear that you care nothing for the well-being of the Hobrazians you are set to lead; instead you care more about turning the entire nation into a theocratic horror of oppression, fear and hate. We are, quite frankly, appalled. |
| Date | 00:47:58, May 28, 2012 CET | From | Akhali Partia | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3310 |
| Message | Why should someone have to leave the country they were born and raised in, where their family and friends live, where they work and are a productive member of society just because they do not dress like you? |
| Date | 01:02:28, May 28, 2012 CET | From | Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3310 |
| Message | If the Hobrazian nation is defined strictly by those who happen to currently live in Hobrazia or hold a Hobrazian passport, then what sets us apart from any other nation? On the contrary, a nation is defined by language, customs, religion, and values, which one cannot just change whenever they feel like it. Abandoning any of the core characteristics of your nation is the same as abandoning your nation. One cannot be a productive member of a society if one rejects its very values. |
| Date | 01:05:28, May 28, 2012 CET | From | Akhali Partia | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3310 |
| Message | Yet why should they be forced upon someone? |
| Date | 01:09:46, May 28, 2012 CET | From | Hobratsuri Erovnuli P’rontis | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3310 |
| Message | Optional values are no values at all. Those that follow different values or have none whatsoever are a threat to the existence of our nation. |
| Date | 01:11:42, May 28, 2012 CET | From | Akhali Partia | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3310 |
| Message | No, they are not a threat. No nation ever ceased to exist because people were too free. However numerous revolts, revolutions and civil wars have been fought over repressive regimes. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 450 | ||
| no |
Total Seats: 299 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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