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Bill: Justice
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Territorial Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2049
Description[?]:
| Criminals in Dorvik are innocent until proven guilty. It is therefore our duty to help innocent suspects with low incomes by paying for their legal representation in court. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government provision of legal aid to the accused.
Old value:: Legal representation is never paid for by the state.
Current: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Proposed: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:28:57, May 08, 2005 CET | From | Dorvish Popular Front | To | Debating the Justice |
| Message | But how do you know if they are innocent? Under this system, a innocent rich person could have to pay their own fee's whilst a guilty poor person would scrounge off the state. Besides, for the person to be in court there must be fairly substantial evidence of guilt. |
| Date | 12:14:10, May 08, 2005 CET | From | Noordelijk Bevrijding Front | To | Debating the Justice |
| Message | If they are guilty they have to work off the money in prison. |
| Date | 23:49:15, May 08, 2005 CET | From | Dorvish Popular Front | To | Debating the Justice |
| Message | Prisoners have to work anyway though. And they have to have time to get educated. So what do you propose we do? |
| Date | 23:53:16, May 08, 2005 CET | From | United Territorial Party | To | Debating the Justice |
| Message | Good idea Greens. In prison, the workers usually get paid a small wage. Those who got legal support from the government can pay off their debt out of that and their eventual earnings on release. |
| Date | 00:35:54, May 09, 2005 CET | From | Dorvish Popular Front | To | Debating the Justice |
| Message | No, in Dorvik the law states all able-bodies prisoners must work during the day, and not for any wage. The law also states there must be prisoner education classes. Thus, the prisoner has a very busy day but earns nothing. How can they afford money to pay off their lawyer? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 68 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 27 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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